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Old 08-14-2009, 12:12 AM   #3 (permalink)
gmc
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Re: uk tops unemployment figures the AA grumpy column

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Originally Posted by oscar View Post
Yeah, whilst Im thinking about pensions, the old pension excuse is always lurking whenever somebody challenges immigration isnt it?. The plain fact is this: if these people knew the cycle that would have to be done to fulfil a solving of the pensions crisis through immigration, they would be shocked and only supportive of it if they were extremely communistic and didnt mind living packed in like sardines.

You see, according to the United Nations own reports and calculations if we stopped immigration to zero right now the support ratio of would be 2.36 : 1 by 2050. Now, if we had a annual net inflow of 124,000 people (ie or another 6.2 MILLION people by 2050) the support ratio only goes to 2.64 : 1. To get something like the necessary 4:1 ratio for comfortable pensions of all citizens, we would need to be importing 1.196 MILLION people per year giving a total immigration value of 59.8MILLION people by 2050. We are already holding atleast 65 Million people in the country at the moment, the idea of having to double our population to approximately 120 MILLION people in the next 40 years to just cover the effects of an ageing populations pension deficit is not really feasible is it?

Just thought I'd throw that in while I'm in a foul mood today
You also need a viable economy to give all those people jobs and while all those public sector employees have nice safe pensions all the poor mugs in private industry who actually generate the wealth to pay for it all are having their final salary schemes closed down all over the place-thank gordon for that one-meanwhile the bankers are paying themselves big bonuses again and the banks have all the funds given to them by the taxpayer on deposit giving interest. We can't feed a population that size and food imports are going up in price all the time-course gordie boy manages to miss out on that when calculating inflation-and that hits those on low incomes most of all. The rich get richer and the poor get poorer and the leadership clings on for dear life, god bless new labour.

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