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Originally Posted by samename

what is going on with the way women are portrayed is seriously depressing, i grew up with feminists in my family talking about the patriarchy turning women into objects ... much to my horror it appears as if its now the older women teaching the young that to be liberated by being greedy power hungry sex crazed creatures ... what went wrong?

Let me assure you, though it is no reassurance, that I have known a number of women who equate theirs and other women's value with the "quality" of man they had caught in their nets. No man=No value. The liberated woman you describe is certainly trying to carve her niche but I am left asking...."WHAT HAPPENED TO THE MIDDLE GROUND???" I was raised to believe I was an object and told as an adult that I ought to be a power hungry crazed woman who would sleep her way to the top. I decided to just be myself...confused. HA! The question is are you who you think you are or who society told you to think you are. Which comes first?

Do these magazines etc create the desire to buy or does the buyer exist and therefore the product?