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Originally Posted by Ted
jester
Good to see you back. I wondered what you were doing.
Having spent a great deal of time studying this particular issue I can say no I am not misusing the term.
It is fine for anyone to say they are not true Christians. That is a judgment call. These people believe they are and that someone like me is from the non-existent Satan. Many of the 22 000 Christian denominations around the world think they are the only ones who have it right. The reconstructionists believe they are true Christians.
The American right wing, the moral majority as they are known are part of this group. It also appears to me that GWB is part of or certainly close to this group. These folks hold a great deal of power in America and they are dangerous.
DrJ has been pointing out some of this in his very accurate comments though I cannot comment on much of what he says as I do not live in the US. That being said scholars and many other ordinary people are referring to America as the new Roman Empire. All such empires were evil in many ways and eventually collapsed.
It has absolutely nothing to do with what I believe. It has everything to do with accurate observation. Some take the Bible literally and are fine Christian people. Others take it literally and are very dangerous people.
Shalom
Ted
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If you have a quote from Jerry Falwell stateing any of the stuff you mentioned negatively in your OP, I'd like a link and a quote, otherwise don't include his name amongst those you mentioned, he was nothing like Robertson.
The US is nothing like the roman empire, thats a bunch of malarchy, and US christianity is so weak theres no way anybody can claim to have sway enough to influence the government of the US. The greatest influence on the US right now is from the neo-athiestic ideology that has swept in, in the past 50 years, it's called humanism, its loosly based on a religious order called selfishness.
The 'fundamentalism' in the US that your refering to (aside from you collecting Mr Falwell in that group) is a non issue. In fact the groups your refering to that do have a minor roll in politics dont claim fundamentalism at all, they are neochristianity... the are nondenominational mega churches with 'feel good' messages very loosly based on biblical principles and largly based a mix of mainline modern pshychology and basic biblical ideology that typically do not quote specific texts.
I think you picked a few whackos out of a news hat and tied them to legitimate chirstinity and it dont fly with me.
You swung, you missed, care to try again?
Answer me this then, if 'christians' (fundamental or not) had any sort of power or influence in american politcs then why is abortion still very legal in the US?
And thanks for the re-welcome, very nice of you, I have been very very busy with my buisiness and new property, Just too much to do.