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    re: Helicopters In Ancient Egypt ( Fact Or Fiction ???? )

    From everything i know of the Ancient Egyptians..... I have always believed they had were ahead of their time. Even to this day, more and more is being un-earthed about them. It was a huge shame the civilisation died out as i wonder how advanced they would have been in the 21st century??
    I'd heard their relative advancement put down to the fact that they have land that is replenished by the river every year with the result that they never exhausted the land, which was a problem for other cultures until they learned about crop rotation and fertilizer. Note the very strong links between Pharaonic ritual and the annual flooding of the Nile.

    This meant that the Egyptians had a more reliable food source than other contemporary cultures ( though I'm not sure what China was up to at the same sort of time).

    Then you add the fact that round this VERY fertile strip of land there was - even back then - a lot of desert that was difficult to get across, especially with an army. This gave them security from outside intervention.

    Add a reliable and abundant food source to security from outside threats and you have a very good cradle for civilisation, and one not available to other cultures that I know of, with the possible exception of China. We do not need to turn to aliens to explain it.

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    re: Helicopters In Ancient Egypt ( Fact Or Fiction ???? )

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    You Know I Always Find It Funny How SOME People Will Laugh / Put Down One Culture When It Has Nothing To Do With Them . But When You Never Had A Culture I Guess That What Happen . Right .
    Then you should be laughing yer butt off on every thread you post...

    I'm not putting down any culture, it was a joke Dan, just a joke. It provokes a question though, like if ancient eqypt had a helo what kind of a powerplant did it operate on? Jet fuel? Or maybe some type of Flintstone principle?

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    re: Helicopters In Ancient Egypt ( Fact Or Fiction ???? )

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    I'd heard their relative advancement put down to the fact that they have land that is replenished by the river every year with the result that they never exhausted the land, which was a problem for other cultures until they learned about crop rotation and fertilizer. Note the very strong links between Pharaonic ritual and the annual flooding of the Nile.

    This meant that the Egyptians had a more reliable food source than other contemporary cultures ( though I'm not sure what China was up to at the same sort of time).

    Then you add the fact that round this VERY fertile strip of land there was - even back then - a lot of desert that was difficult to get across, especially with an army. This gave them security from outside intervention.

    Add a reliable and abundant food source to security from outside threats and you have a very good cradle for civilisation, and one not available to other cultures that I know of, with the possible exception of China. We do not need to turn to aliens to explain it.
    Good points Clooddy but i was not refering to the geographical position of Egypt when i say they were too ahead of their time as unltimately, it is believed, the downfall of ancient Egypt was the drying up of the Nile. What i implied, was that taken from the atrifacts found, i.e. the model aircraft and the heiroglyphics along with various potions used in embalming way ahead of their time, suggested that they had the basis of the idea's to put mechinery into practice. The geological position in desert with limited resources, could have been the cause that did not enable them to take this further. Maybe, just as this was coming to fruition, the civilization collapsed.
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    re: Helicopters In Ancient Egypt ( Fact Or Fiction ???? )

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    Then you should be laughing yer butt off on every thread you post...

    I'm not putting down any culture, it was a joke Dan, just a joke. It provokes a question though, like if ancient eqypt had a helo what kind of a powerplant did it operate on? Jet fuel? Or maybe some type of Flintstone principle?

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    Did you know that the Anubis Jackal , the black dog of Egipt , is the reason why people waer black to funerals ? The black jackal dog has always been a symbol assciated with Egipt . It also represents the Neter ( deity ) Anubu ( Anubis ) . Who is called the Neter of the Dead . Anubu ( Anubis ) was also considered the inventor of Embalming . the guardian of tomba , and a judge of the dead . When the Soul was being judged . his heart was weighed on a scale against the feather of Ma'at ..Neter Anubu .. Neter Ma'at ... Netert Ammit ,Which would determine if the Soul would continue its journey or be prey for Ammit the serpent , Also known as Apopis and Apep from these symbols of Egipt . The western world associates black , witch craft , black magic and black dog with death . For Instance If A Person

    Hears A Dog Howling , It Is SaidTo Be An Omen That Some Will Die Soon . When A Person Dies Everyone Goes To The Funeral Wearing Black , As A Sign Of Mourning . When customs on burial were made , they stolepart from Egiptian funeral ceremonies , and made it their own . They change the symbols and the original meaning . In doing this they are constantly taking away the whole essence of the rituals and giving it back to you water down . So when you see the origins of your culture , you can't even appreciate it , because you have been given something with no meaning , or it was given to you with a negative phiosophy . What you are being shown you can not even identify with . So Black is LQQK At As Bad And The Jackal Is LQQked At As Something Evil . When Neither Is Negative , < Black Is A State Of


    Supreme Balancement , You Exist Longer In Dark Than Light , If Light Is Life You Only Live Your Physical Life With Human And Animals From 1 - 100 Years Or Up 120 The Most . But In Darkness Or Death You Are With God And The Angel ForEver . So Light Is Temporally And Darkness Is Eternal . Light Is With Man And Darkness Is With God, ! > Think About It . Before You Were Born , You Were In This State . And When You DieYou Will Return To That State Of Supreme Balancement . ( When Man Invented Light He Created Chaos . Murder And All Evil That Brought The Light Into Existence . ) < Blackness Is An Abode Of Peace , It Is The Light That You Cut Off When You're Ready To Sleep , To Bring Upon Peace , I Think You've Been Fooled By Racism . The Jackal Just Happen To Be The Animal Symbol Used By The Neter ( Deity ) Anubu ( Anubia ) .


    Most People Might Ask Are JackalsReally Blacks? Answer ; No ! there is no such specie as a black jackal . , the real reason why the black jackal is depicted as black , can not be revealed to those who is found not worthy . But little is a revealed and can be told, it is symbolic of '' The nine black knights . But there is a species of jackals called the black - backed jackal which originated in Senegal to Somalia , south to Namibia and eastern South Africa . Jackal isthe name applied to several carivorous mammals . in the genus Canis , dog family . They inhabit brush county . Deserts , and grasslands . Jackals are about 90 cm ( 3ft ) long , including thebushy 35 - cm ( 14in) tail , and weigh about 10 . 8 kg ( 24lb ) . They have erect ears , fairly long legs , and a slinking gait , but the black jackal dog does not exist . <Why Is It


    Once A Person Passes Away It Is LQQked At As Something Depressing Or As Such A Tragedy ? Formost , It Is Because It Is Something Unknown . If You Join God When You Die , Why Do You As A Religous Person Try To Stay Alive So Bad , If You Already Gave Yourself To God , You Should Be Happy To Die , Right ! Other Cultures Don't View Death As Something Bad But Accept It As Something That Is A Natural Part Of The Cycle Of Life To Be Celebrated , As The Soul Moves On To The Next Realm . This Is Also A Practice In Louisiana . One A Person Is Buried A Celebration Is Held With Danceing And Eating , It Is LQQked At As A Very Joyous Event And Not One Of Sorrow . The Native Americans, In Fact , Did A Dance That Resulted In The Massacre At Wounded Knee , Which Was Also Borrowed From The Egiptian Dance Of The Dead , Of The Muu Tribe .

    Embalming Process ... Once the embalming process was complete , sometime taking as long as 70 days , The Sem or Egiptian Priest would lead the procession of the deceassed family and how they will miss their loved ones , not for the fact that he or she will join the deities in the heavens . The Professional Mourners who were people who would follow the procession , crying for the deceased until they reached the tomb . In case of a pharaoh , or wealthy person , the family made sure they were given the most elaborate ceremony possible. . Once The Sarcophagus was in place , the tomb was sealed . Seated outside the tomb would be the Muu dancer who would perform the dance of the dead also called the Dance Of The People Of Pe . from the lower Egipt . Don't you see the whole process surrounding the burial of a deceased person including the wake is nothing but a duplcate of Egiptian rituals . The wake is where the members of the


    family and concerned friends have one final viewing of their loved one , by wake I mean wake is , to wakeup - resurrect get up before they are returned to Ta = earth from which they came . In Egipt , the wake or last viewing of the body is the sarcophagus , which has a life - like face of the person at their best to be always remembered . In the western world , the body is filled with formaldehyde to preserve it until the burial , also copied form the Egiptian method of embalming . Then there is a procession to the tomb . from the funeral home or parlor . home , which is a line of cars driving through the cities with banners and flowers. They also honk their horns. and turn on their headlights forall on LQQking to see on them on their way to the cemetery or graveyard . In Egipt . there was a procession taking the mummy to the tomb . The casket or coffin which is a decorative box , a sarcophagus , is then lowered into theground . an earthly tomb ; likewise in Egipt . the mummy is sealed inside the tomb

    Western World Dance Of Death , Sounds Familiar ... <<< This Definitely Sounds Familiar , It Was Taken From The Egiptians' Culture ! The Dance Od Death , Is an allegorical theme in art , literature , and music . It was based on the popular belief , fostered by the plagues and wars of the 14th and 15th centuries , that the dead , as akeletons , rose from their graves and tempted the living of all ages and ranks , to join them in a dance that brought them finally to death . Their Symbols Was The Skull And Cross Bones , The Symbol Of Raising From The Dead Or Resurrection The Dance Of Death , Or Danse Macabre , Or Totentanz , Was First Embodied In Murals And A Poem ( 1424 - 1425 ) In The Church Of The Holy Innocents In Paris . The Parisian . Printer Guyot Marchant Published A Version In Woodcuts And Verse

    1485 ) . Which Was Circulated Throughout Europe . The Dance Of Death Was Subsequently Painted On Many Church Walls And Inspirired A Famous Set Of 51 Drawing Produced From 1523 To 1535 By The German Painter Hans Holbein The Younger . Anubis Was Considered The Inventor Of Embalming . The Guardian Of Tombs , And A Judge Of The Dead . The Egiptians Taught That At The Judgement He Weighed The Heart Of The Dead Against The Feather Of Truth , Which Is The Ma'at Feather , The Ostrich Is Know To Stick His Head In The Earth , While His Body Is Above The Ground , In Truth He ThinksThat He Is Hiding , When He Is Not . In Art He Is Represented As Jackal - Headed . Anubis

    Was Sometimes Indentified With Hermes Who Is Tehuti ( Thoth , Thutmoses ) In Greek Mythology . No Matter Where You LQQk , You See How They Have Copied Everything From Egipt From Architecture , To Clothing And Even The Customs And Rituals . Egipt Is The Source Of All Knowledge For Civilzation , And Even Modern Ones Of Today . So , The Whole Concept Of Wearing Black To Funerals Was Grafted From Ancient Egipt . What I'm Trying To Tell You The Whole Burial Concept Came From The Egiptians , The Wearing Of Black For Funeral ProcessionsIs Associated With The Black Dog Of Egipt . The Whole Concept Of The Death Dance Which All Pertians To A Black Dog Wearing A Red Or Gold Collar With A Red Stone On Ir Was All Symbolic Of Anubis .


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    re: Helicopters In Ancient Egypt ( Fact Or Fiction ???? )

    Good points Clooddy but i was not refering to the geographical position of Egypt when i say they were too ahead of their time as unltimately, it is believed, the downfall of ancient Egypt was the drying up of the Nile. What i implied, was that taken from the atrifacts found, i.e. the model aircraft and the heiroglyphics along with various potions used in embalming way ahead of their time, suggested that they had the basis of the idea's to put mechinery into practice. The geological position in desert with limited resources, could have been the cause that did not enable them to take this further. Maybe, just as this was coming to fruition, the civilization collapsed.
    It's good to be able to discuss this...

    You're going beyond my ability to comment - I simply don't know enough. But I wonder if the Egyptians had invented the screw-pump for irrigation? One of the Classical Greeks (Aristotle?) re-invented this machine and when the writings of the Classical Greeks were rediscovered I seem to remember that Leonardo Da Vinci drew clear sketches of a helicopter type machine, based on the screw-pump principle, but the existence of pictures does not mean the machine was ever built. I think you are probably right about the Ancient Egyptians not having the geology to get the materials...by gum. It does make you wonder what might have happened if they had had access to coal, limstone and iron ore. You're not going to make many helicopters out of copper...

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    re: Helicopters In Ancient Egypt ( Fact Or Fiction ???? )

    Quote Originally Posted by Clodhopper View Post
    It's good to be able to discuss this...

    You're going beyond my ability to comment - I simply don't know enough. But I wonder if the Egyptians had invented the screw-pump for irrigation? One of the Classical Greeks (Aristotle?) re-invented this machine and when the writings of the Classical Greeks were rediscovered I seem to remember that Leonardo Da Vinci drew clear sketches of a helicopter type machine, based on the screw-pump principle, but the existence of pictures does not mean the machine was ever built. I think you are probably right about the Ancient Egyptians not having the geology to get the materials...by gum. It does make you wonder what might have happened if they had had access to coal, limstone and iron ore. You're not going to make many helicopters out of copper...
    Yes, I've seen the drawings of De Vinci's helicopter. I'm afraid the Ancient Egyptains is a subject i could bang on about for months as it's something i have read for many years, If you take even just the death masks, and artifacts moulded from gold in tombs, they are on parr with any high tech carvings or mouldings of today. I believe there is every possibility there was a lot more to them than we will ever know but we don't want to believe it because it trashes historians versions of accounts and how technology evolved.
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    Yes, I've seen the drawings of De Vinci's helicopter. I'm afraid the Ancient Egyptains is a subject i could bang on about for months as it's something i have read for many years, If you take even just the death masks, and artifacts moulded from gold in tombs, they are on parr with any high tech carvings or mouldings of today. I believe there is every possibility there was a lot more to them than we will ever know but we don't want to believe it because it trashes historians versions of accounts and how technology evolved.



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