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Old 04-30-2006, 04:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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ILLEGAL aliens

Yes they are human, yes they deserve to live, yes they have a human right to strive for a better life... BUT, they are breaking the law to do it...and we are permitting it.

Take the second and third generation deadbeats in this country off welfare. The job market the ILLEGALS fill would suddenly become much more attractive. A lot less money would come out of my (earned) paycheck, and it would give me the hope of a retirement program.

If there were to become less jobs for ILLEGALS, there would be less ILLEGALS.

If more deadbeats that live off of very liberal handout programs took jobs there would be less jobs for ILLEGALS.

Holy ship... I'd better close this out... I'm making sense.

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Old 04-30-2006, 04:04 PM   #2 (permalink)
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anyone anywhere should have the freedom to live anywhere they so choose in the world

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Old 04-30-2006, 05:22 PM   #3 (permalink)
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anyone anywhere should have the freedom to live anywhere they so choose in the world
Then do it legally, support the country and it's people that feed you and don't make me pay twice the price to have the ingredients of my bag of tater chips printed in two frikken languages!

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Old 04-30-2006, 05:25 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: ILLEGAL aliens

Well, I will make my statement-unless you are Native American, then your family has come here at some point in time, illegally. And taken the land from those who owned it first.

Hatred and intense dislike of them will not alter the situation, dear 4rum.

And English is not the official language of the United States, last I heard.

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Old 04-30-2006, 05:41 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: ILLEGAL aliens

Land was taken from the Native Americans, but I don't think that means
everyone else came here illegally. People all over the world have to
submit to their countries being taken over... or at least have down through
history. Doesn't mean it's right, but at some point changes are made, and
people should learn to live with those changes.

I like Sheryl's post in my thread (Monday's Boycott) about wearing red
or blue tomorrow and going shopping.

It does irk me to be held "hostage" in any way by illegal aliens. There
has to be something else done. And the idea of getting people off
welfare and putting them to work just might be viable. Sacramento,
California has for years had programs in place, you look for work or
you don't GET welfare.

We had amnesty many years back. We can't just keep giving it and
giving it and giving it. That doesn't work. We end up getting no
respect and encouraging MORE illegal immigrants to come here in the
hope that oh, what's it matter, they'll give us amnesty anyway.
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Re: ILLEGAL aliens

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anyone anywhere should have the freedom to live anywhere they so choose in the world

Yes if they pay for it . If i want to go live in the caribbean i would have to pay my own way so why should immigrant's be given free benefit's free housing free schooling and the right to complain anytime they can't get their own way .Show me one country that you and me can rock upto and be given a home money to live on help finding work and if i don't want to work they'll give me a lifetime of benefit's think about it .....while immigrant's are whinging about how hard done by they are in the UK what about the school place's their taking... the fund's being wasted on immigrant's coming in infected with HIV /TB... how many home's are being taken and given to immigrant's .Why the free ride why give convicted alien's asylem why let them stay after the break the law....... WHY because this country does'nt care about it's own citizen's now there's a kick in the face .

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its up to us to vote in a party that will make policies that we agree with regarding this matter pants, obviously the majority of people here voted in the labour party agree with what they do
immigrants are not the only people who abuse the benefits system

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its up to us to vote in a party that will make policies that we agree with regarding this matter pants, obviously the majority of people here voted in the labour party agree with what they do
immigrants are not the only people who abuse the benefits system

Unfortunately many "Politicians" say what ever is needed to get themselves "elected"! Then once in office, they backstep & say you must have misunderstood what I said, or I'm working on it, & it never happens! The word "immigrants" is really being misused, we're actually talking about "Illegals". Legal Immigrants are "legal" citizens. Illegal is just that Illegal. And that should translate into having no "legal" citizen's rights at all, that they are already getting, & now they want even more!!!
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That's what make's me so mad

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Old 05-01-2006, 11:15 AM   #10 (permalink)
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There are rules and laws butter. Follow the rules, then come. Dont come here illegally then protest your rights if you havent earned your rights.

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