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Old 07-03-2006, 09:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have two observations.

The number of people brought to mainland North America from Africa and sold as slaves is of the order of three million. [1]

More than one in ten of the entire world prison population today is a direct descendant of these slaves. [2]

Is this a reflection on the nature of slavery? Is it a coincidence?



[1] http://academic.udayton.edu/race/02rights/slave04.htm
[2] 2005 US prison pop. 2,186,230
world prison population 9 million http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs2/r188.pdf
4,682 per 100000 male 347 female http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/pjim05.pdf
12.8% of 296,410,404 = 38 million
19m = 890,000 male 66000 female (non-hispanic)
956000 total black prison population http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html
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Nature of slavery not so much as the civil rights.

Coincidence - not hardly.

My opinion of course

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Nature of slavery not so much as the civil rights.
You're the first person not to have thrown his hands up in the air and refused point-blank to believe the possibility that the statistic might be true. Congratulations.

For how many years have full civil rights been enforced by law in all areas of life in the USA?

How many more years of such enforcement will it take to remove the race element from US prison statistics?

Is there now something beyond civil rights involved in the continuation of the imbalance?
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What is coincidence, is that I actually live in Dayton.

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Well, I went googling for an academic site that knew about these matters and that one shrieked at me, it has a lot there. It's Professor Vernellia Randall's website on "Race and Racism in American Law". I spent an hour reading there, she's taught me things.
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Is there now something beyond civil rights involved in the continuation of the imbalance?
Perhaps will, and determination?

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How many more years of such enforcement will it take to remove the race element from US prison statistics?
You find someone who can answer this you have found a genius, pshychic, one.

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so what's the excuse for the other 90% who aren't black?

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so what's the excuse for the other 90% who aren't black?
And you're the second person not to have thrown his hands up in the air and refused point-blank to believe the possibility that the statistic might be true.

All I've done so far is to observe two facts, to see what reaction I get. I haven't said blame or guilt or right or wrong and I have especially not said excuse. Perhaps we can jointly suggest a cause. I did ask a few questions which you've chosen to ignore.

Is the correlation a reflection on the nature of slavery?

Is it a coincidence?
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does it matter?
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