Abortion Poll- Part 1

koan · 08-19-2006, 08:03 AM

A hot debate pops up on this issue all the time. This thread is not for debate, lest it turn to blows as usual, this is just to cast a vote and state your reasons simply.

The first question that defines the issue is not about when life begins, that is actually a religious question. Since the legal system does not currently recognize a human as being alive until it is born, the question whether the state has a right to govern a person's body is the only valid legal issue (according to the courts). We can delve into the religious elsewhere.

ETA: So everyone knows, a "yes" vote on this question, does not mean a "yes" to abortion. It is to create an agreed upon set of facts. The question of whether or not a baby is a separate entity of "private property" will be next if yes wins here.

08-19-2006, 08:07 AM

question is kinda tricky, i mean baby is not your body anymore

chonsigirl · 08-19-2006, 08:10 AM

I voted no, I believe a baby is it's own being from it's initial creation inside the mother.

koan · 08-19-2006, 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onsekiz

question is kinda tricky, i mean baby is not your body anymore

that's a secondary question. the question is part of the abortion debate but stands on it's own as well, in matters of euthanasia and other debates.

to clarify: anyone against abortion does not nullify their argument by declaring a body private property. a win for "yes" here does not mean that abortion wins with a "yes"

Lulu2 · 08-19-2006, 08:27 AM

My body...my choice.

Lizard Lips · 08-19-2006, 08:49 AM

As difficult as it is to think of the destruction of human life, I vote YES. I only speak for myself, for no other woman.

chocoholic · 08-19-2006, 08:50 AM

I voted YES, as Lulu said - my body, my choice.

Marie5656 · 08-19-2006, 08:51 AM

My body, my decisions.

Adam Zapple · 08-19-2006, 07:21 PM

I voted yes. I baby's body(even in the womb) is also private.

vampress.rozz · 08-19-2006, 07:41 PM

I'm not sure I understood the question properly. Does the state have the right to govern what happens to someones body?? Well in our country they prevent you from killing yourself. I find this hard to answer. I hate the idea of career women being able to just decide they are not ready even though they have helped to start a life yet other circumstances such as following a rape should be privately dealt with following the woman's own wishes. The other issue I have with state intervention is does this include intervention on behalf of the father. Someone I knew only found out he could have been a father after the baby was terminated talk about broken up.

View Poll Results: Is your body private property?
Yes	18	81.82%
No	4	18.18%
Voters: 22. You may not vote on this poll

08-19-2006, 08:03 AM	#1 (permalink)
koan anomaly Supporting Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 12,665	Abortion Poll- Part 1 A hot debate pops up on this issue all the time. This thread is not for debate, lest it turn to blows as usual, this is just to cast a vote and state your reasons simply. The first question that defines the issue is not about when life begins, that is actually a religious question. Since the legal system does not currently recognize a human as being alive until it is born, the question whether the state has a right to govern a person's body is the only valid legal issue (according to the courts). We can delve into the religious elsewhere. ETA: So everyone knows, a "yes" vote on this question, does not mean a "yes" to abortion. It is to create an agreed upon set of facts. The question of whether or not a baby is a separate entity of "private property" will be next if yes wins here. __________________ Having the right to an opinion does not make your opinion right.
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08-19-2006, 08:07 AM	#2 (permalink)
onsekiz Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Abortion Poll- Part 1 question is kinda tricky, i mean baby is not your body anymore

08-19-2006, 08:10 AM	#3 (permalink)
chonsigirl I think, therefore I post Supporting Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Nirvana Posts: 28,520	Re: Abortion Poll- Part 1 I voted no, I believe a baby is it's own being from it's initial creation inside the mother.
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08-19-2006, 08:27 AM	#5 (permalink)
Lulu2 Senior Member Supporting Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: So. Calif. Posts: 6,051	Re: Abortion Poll- Part 1 My body...my choice. __________________ My candle's burning at both ends, it will not last the night. But ah, my foes, and oh, my friends--It gives a lovely light!--Edna St. Vincent Millay
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08-19-2006, 08:49 AM	#6 (permalink)
Lizard Lips Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Wyoming Posts: 107	Re: Abortion Poll- Part 1 As difficult as it is to think of the destruction of human life, I vote YES. I only speak for myself, for no other woman.
Local Time: 08:58 PM Local Date: 11-21-2008

08-19-2006, 08:50 AM	#7 (permalink)
chocoholic Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hereford Posts: 4,615	Re: Abortion Poll- Part 1 I voted YES, as Lulu said - my body, my choice. __________________
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08-19-2006, 08:51 AM	#8 (permalink)
Marie5656 What? Me worry? Join Date: May 2006 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 6,694	Re: Abortion Poll- Part 1 My body, my decisions. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Local Time: 11:58 PM Local Date: 11-21-2008

08-19-2006, 07:21 PM	#9 (permalink)
Adam Zapple GEAUX TIGERS! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 979	Re: Abortion Poll- Part 1 I voted yes. I baby's body(even in the womb) is also private.
Local Time: 10:58 PM Local Date: 11-21-2008

08-19-2006, 07:41 PM	#10 (permalink)
vampress.rozz Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: England Posts: 226	Re: Abortion Poll- Part 1 I'm not sure I understood the question properly. Does the state have the right to govern what happens to someones body?? Well in our country they prevent you from killing yourself. I find this hard to answer. I hate the idea of career women being able to just decide they are not ready even though they have helped to start a life yet other circumstances such as following a rape should be privately dealt with following the woman's own wishes. The other issue I have with state intervention is does this include intervention on behalf of the father. Someone I knew only found out he could have been a father after the baby was terminated talk about broken up. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Blessed be.
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