Abortion Poll - Part 2

koan · 08-19-2006, 05:20 PM

While hoping that more people consider part 1, part 2 in the poll is whether or not a fetus is a separate body, independent of the mothers right over her own body. There are many factors to consider such as the baby not being able to survive outside of the womb but that the baby has basic organs or a heartbeat of its own. There are other threads that debate the whole issue. If you've made your mind up, vote.

Marie5656 · 08-19-2006, 06:59 PM

I will strike controversy by admitting I voted no. It depends on how "person" is defined. During the first trimester...when an abortion is legally allowed, I do not feel it is more than a fetus. It is unable to sustain life outside the mother's body at this time. Therefore, if there is no life, is there a person?

Adam Zapple · 08-19-2006, 07:10 PM

Unique DNA, unique person.

RedGlitter · 08-19-2006, 07:58 PM

It's a separate entity that requires its host.
At the risk of sounding smarmy or whatever, I have to say that expression "I brought you into this world and I will take you out" comes to mind here.

koan · 08-19-2006, 08:37 PM

I'm pro-choice but I voted yes on this aspect. To arrive at an honest opinion one needs to consider each aspect individually. I have other reasons that cause me to be pro-choice but I don't deny that the baby is actually a separate entity. Anyone who has been pregnant can tell you it feels like having an alien inside you.

nvalleyvee · 08-19-2006, 08:45 PM

Geez Koan - you did not give any time limit on the fetus.................HMMMM.

Personal feeling is that any life in-utero is up for debate. The Mom, the Dad...there aren't any other people to make that decision. OHHHH yeah it is only the Mom.

koan · 08-19-2006, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nvalleyvee

Geez Koan - you did not give any time limit on the fetus.................HMMMM.

Personal feeling is that any life in-utero is up for debate. The Mom, the Dad...there aren't any other people to make that decision. OHHHH yeah it is only the Mom.

The legal range of when abortions are permitted are the only ones to dispute after the time passes that abortions are allowed I think all people agree it is able to survive and a legal person.

The courts try to decide. But here, it is just a question of what the majority thinks.

Lizard Lips · 08-20-2006, 10:23 PM

This pro-choice person voted yes.

Bryn Mawr · 08-21-2006, 02:40 PM

Without qualification I cannot vote.

Until the point at which the foetus would be capable of independent life I do not believe it to be independent. To put it another way, whilst it is totally dependent on the mother it is part of the mother.

Beyond that point, even though it is within the mother and depending on her it is a separate entity.

How does that fit with the voting options?

koan · 08-22-2006, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryn Mawr

Without qualification I cannot vote.

Until the point at which the foetus would be capable of independent life I do not believe it to be independent. To put it another way, whilst it is totally dependent on the mother it is part of the mother.

Beyond that point, even though it is within the mother and depending on her it is a separate entity.

How does that fit with the voting options?

Work through your inner conflict and pick an answer. You have to decide if the fetus' inability to survive independently overwhelms its existence as a separate entity.

View Poll Results: Is a fetus a separate person while still in the womb?
Yes	17	58.62%
No	12	41.38%
Voters: 29. You may not vote on this poll

08-19-2006, 05:20 PM	#1 (permalink)
koan anomaly Supporting Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 12,650	Abortion Poll - Part 2 While hoping that more people consider part 1, part 2 in the poll is whether or not a fetus is a separate body, independent of the mothers right over her own body. There are many factors to consider such as the baby not being able to survive outside of the womb but that the baby has basic organs or a heartbeat of its own. There are other threads that debate the whole issue. If you've made your mind up, vote. __________________ Having the right to an opinion does not make your opinion right.
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08-19-2006, 06:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
Marie5656 What? Me worry? Join Date: May 2006 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 6,694	Re: Abortion Poll - Part 2 I will strike controversy by admitting I voted no. It depends on how "person" is defined. During the first trimester...when an abortion is legally allowed, I do not feel it is more than a fetus. It is unable to sustain life outside the mother's body at this time. Therefore, if there is no life, is there a person? __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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08-19-2006, 07:10 PM	#3 (permalink)
Adam Zapple GEAUX TIGERS! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 979	Re: Abortion Poll - Part 2 Unique DNA, unique person.
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08-19-2006, 07:58 PM	#4 (permalink)
RedGlitter hubcap diamond star halo Supporting Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In the middle of the Arizona desert Posts: 15,780	Re: Abortion Poll - Part 2 It's a separate entity that requires its host. At the risk of sounding smarmy or whatever, I have to say that expression "I brought you into this world and I will take you out" comes to mind here.
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08-19-2006, 08:37 PM	#5 (permalink)
koan anomaly Supporting Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 12,650	Re: Abortion Poll - Part 2 I'm pro-choice but I voted yes on this aspect. To arrive at an honest opinion one needs to consider each aspect individually. I have other reasons that cause me to be pro-choice but I don't deny that the baby is actually a separate entity. Anyone who has been pregnant can tell you it feels like having an alien inside you. __________________ Having the right to an opinion does not make your opinion right.
Local Time: 09:51 AM Local Date: 11-19-2008

08-19-2006, 08:45 PM	#6 (permalink)
nvalleyvee Not just a sheeple Supporting Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: NM Posts: 5,140	Re: Abortion Poll - Part 2 Geez Koan - you did not give any time limit on the fetus.................HMMMM. Personal feeling is that any life in-utero is up for debate. The Mom, the Dad...there aren't any other people to make that decision. OHHHH yeah it is only the Mom. __________________ The growth of knowledge depends entirely on disagreement..........Karl R. Popper
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08-20-2006, 10:23 PM	#8 (permalink)
Lizard Lips Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Wyoming Posts: 107	Re: Abortion Poll - Part 2 This pro-choice person voted yes.
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08-21-2006, 02:40 PM	#9 (permalink)
Bryn Mawr Senior Member Supporting Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: London Posts: 6,015	Re: Abortion Poll - Part 2 Without qualification I cannot vote. Until the point at which the foetus would be capable of independent life I do not believe it to be independent. To put it another way, whilst it is totally dependent on the mother it is part of the mother. Beyond that point, even though it is within the mother and depending on her it is a separate entity. How does that fit with the voting options?
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