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Old 12-25-2004, 04:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Jehovah's conspiracy

Biggest conspiracy to date is did he die on the cross in other words was Jesus crucified?

How can you prove it if he did?

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Old 12-28-2004, 01:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Of course no one can ever prove someone who lived thousands of years ago was crucified. People who believe it will tell you the definition of faith is believing in something even where there is not proof of it.

Curious why you named this thread what you named it. I don't get the connection between the title and your post.
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Old 12-31-2004, 05:39 AM   #3 (permalink)
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a very logical answer, indeed. Let me tell you he did not die!

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Old 12-31-2004, 06:28 AM   #4 (permalink)
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"they slew him not, nor did they crucify him,
but it seem so to them" a verse from the Qur'an.

There were no Christians at the time of Jesus, there were Jews, so it is pointless in asking the Christians whether Jesus died, because there were no Christians at the time of Jesus, none of the Christians can testify that Jesus died. However if you were to ask the Jews whether Jesus died on the cross. They would answer it was an imposter who died on the cross. Logically therefore it was not the Mesiah Jesus, or Christ (as he would later be referred to as) who died on the cross, but in actuality an imposter that died on the cross. That is the testimony of the Jews, who were around at the time of Jesus, that an imposter died on the cross.

I rest my case, Christianity is an innovation in monotheism, the first Jewish Commandment is, Thou shall not have any Gods apart from Me. Muslims say, there is no God apart from God. Jesus said Love thy God....and know your God is One. Therefore all three greatest sages Moses, Jesus, Muhammad, professed to only One God.

A conspiracy therefore on behalf of the Christian church, who continue to innovate and lead people astray. My book shall be called Jehovah's Conspiracy, maybe anyway, need more feedback as to what to write, more solid evidence especially from the fabrications known as the Synoptic Gospels.

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Old 12-31-2004, 06:38 AM   #5 (permalink)
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which led to the indignation against the Jews who should properly be referred to as the Children of Israel, my mistake the Children of Israel is the proper term.

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Old 12-31-2004, 07:11 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Jehovah's conspiracy

There are a number of books with proposed alternative endings to the Christ story. All the books have massive amounts of research and historical data to back their theories. The books, despite research and supposed historical evidence, still disagree as to what actually happened. If you go ahead and write your book, I am always interested in new theories, you must compete with the others. You must have a book full of supporting facts. How long have you been researching this topic?

Also, if you call it "Jehovah's Conspiracy", you imply that the conspiracy was initiated by God (Jehovah) and not by man (the Christian Church).
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Old 12-31-2004, 11:08 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Conspiracy concerning the death of Jesus

I used to think Jehovah was a Messianic title of Jesus, when I first heard it, then realized it derived from Jahweh the word for Jewish God. No it has no relevance to what I want to write about, my main aim is to re analyze whether Jesus died, and the impact of Jesus’ death and crucifixion on historical events, the conflict between Christian and Jews, and the underlying hatred against the Jews stemming from the crucifixion. For that I would use arguments from the Synoptic Gospels themselves, about the crucifixion and the resurrection. Also about the use Christian symbols to dispel evil spirits and the use of them in cult phenomena like vampire theories, about man being replaced by vampires as top of the food chain. If there is any other reliable material available which could be hidden which would confirm the fabrications of the Synoptic Gospels

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ans to research question

not much really, mainly hear say.

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"The Holy Blood, The Holy Grail" comes to mind first as a starting point. You should search the net for research on the topic. Another thing came to mind: Mainly hearsay or heresy? That is the question. You may find your book has already been written but should have fun reading all the theories in the mean time. There's always room for another book just make sure your angle is unique.
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Old 01-01-2005, 06:44 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Can you prove that he didn't? I am a strong christian believer and have believed all of my life that Jesus died on the cross. The only proof that I have is that it is in the bible. That is not just any book. That is THE book. I am not disagreeing, just simply asking you the same question from a different perpective. Anyway if you question this big thing, that is between you and God. But I say I know in my heart that it is true. But only God himself can show you different.

God bless you on your seeking of answers.

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