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Old 01-18-2005, 02:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Brits Demand The Right To Defend Home Against Burglars

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An overwhelming number of Britons believe they should have the right to protect their home and family against intruders, a crime study reveals today.

On the day that the Householder Protection Bill is due to be introduced in Parliament, the study from Virgin Money Insurance found that a massive 99 per cent of people believe they should have the right to defend their home and family against burglars and intruders.

The study, which looks into attitudes on home security, also found that nine in 10 (92%) people would, like Ozzy Osborne, be prepared to physically defend their home against intruders and burglars. And a worrying one in six go as far as keeping a weapon close to their bed at night in case of intruders.

Although millions of Britons are prepared to fight to protect their homes, the Virgin Money Insurance research reveals that 87 per cent of people surveyed think that current law is weighted in favour of criminals.

According to the survey, the fear of crime is high for Brits, with half of all homeowners worrying about their home being broken into. But, despite three quarters of people saying that hearing stories of other people being burgled makes them feel more vulnerable, one in six people still do nothing to improve current security systems.

When it comes to home security measures, The Virgin Money study found:

• Only a meagre 17 per cent of people have an alarm and only 37 per cent of people have window locks
• Only 4 per cent of people are a member of a Neighbourhood Watch scheme
• Only one in 10 people make changes to their home security after reading about other people being burgled despite the fact it makes them feel more vulnerable
• Women are more fearful about their security in the home with six in 10 worried about being broken into at night and eight in 10 feeling more vulnerable after reading about other people being burgled.

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From: Virgin Money

An overwhelming number of Britons believe they should have the right to protect their home and family against intruders, a crime study reveals today.

On the day that the Householder Protection Bill is due to be introduced in Parliament, the study from Virgin Money Insurance found that a massive 99 per cent of people believe they should have the right to defend their home and family against burglars and intruders.

The study, which looks into attitudes on home security, also found that nine in 10 (92%) people would, like Ozzy Osborne, be prepared to physically defend their home against intruders and burglars. And a worrying one in six go as far as keeping a weapon close to their bed at night in case of intruders.

Although millions of Britons are prepared to fight to protect their homes, the Virgin Money Insurance research reveals that 87 per cent of people surveyed think that current law is weighted in favour of criminals.

According to the survey, the fear of crime is high for Brits, with half of all homeowners worrying about their home being broken into. But, despite three quarters of people saying that hearing stories of other people being burgled makes them feel more vulnerable, one in six people still do nothing to improve current security systems.

When it comes to home security measures, The Virgin Money study found:

• Only a meagre 17 per cent of people have an alarm and only 37 per cent of people have window locks
• Only 4 per cent of people are a member of a Neighbourhood Watch scheme
• Only one in 10 people make changes to their home security after reading about other people being burgled despite the fact it makes them feel more vulnerable
• Women are more fearful about their security in the home with six in 10 worried about being broken into at night and eight in 10 feeling more vulnerable after reading about other people being burgled.

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http://www.virgin.com/news/default.a...wsId=374&pst=-
Getting more like the US every day.

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Old 01-18-2005, 03:19 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Brits Demand The Right To Defend Home Against Burglars

As an American here in New Zealand, I get a kick out of an article in the local press discussing what is reasonable force in protecting yourself and property from burglars. Current laws, like the U.K, appear to protect the burglar, and in fact, do nothing at all to discourage burglary.

Be he a teenager or adult. If I am awoken in the middle of the night and find some one in my bedroom that doesn't belong there, I would if I could, have no qualms in seriously injuring or even killing the intruder.

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Hung drawn & quarterd I bet

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As an American here in New Zealand, I get a kick out of an article in the local press discussing what is reasonable force in protecting yourself and property from burglars. Current laws, like the U.K, appear to protect the burglar, and in fact, do nothing at all to discourage burglary.

Be he a teenager or adult. If I am awoken in the middle of the night and find some one in my bedroom that doesn't belong there, I would if I could, have no qualms in seriously injuring or even killing the intruder.
It sounds like burglars have no qualms about entering occupied homes in England. Only complete nut cases do this in the U.S.A. The public perception here is that if someone is in your home while you are there, then you expect the worst is going to happen to you. Use of deadly force is the first choice.

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I Live In London And If Anybody Tryed To Enter My Home I Would Not Hesitate To Pick Up And Use The First Thing That Came To Hand i Have A Dog Which Is A Great Deterrent And I Also Have A Cctv Camera On My Front Door And Over The Garden, I Belive 100%that I Have The Right To Protect My Home And My Family If And Intruder Breaks In .sarah Jane

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I Live In London And If Anybody Tryed To Enter My Home I Would Not Hesitate To Pick Up And Use The First Thing That Came To Hand i Have A Dog Which Is A Great Deterrent And I Also Have A Cctv Camera On My Front Door And Over The Garden, I Belive 100%that I Have The Right To Protect My Home And My Family If And Intruder Breaks In .sarah Jane
What you believe to be your right and what the wacko socialist have actually made illegal may be too different things. What you think to be your right may actually be illegal.

I can defeat a CCtv with a $3 pair of wire cutters and a ladder, a hammer and a ladder, or a can of spray paint and a ladder.

I can defeat a dog with 1lb of ground beef and sleeping pills.

I can defeat 'the first thing in my hand' with the 'first thing in my hand' too. Plus the thief will have the advantage with suprise, readiness, and possbily a second thief. Two intruders with 'first thing in hand' vs sleepy homeowner with 'first thing in hand'? Intruders have the superior advantage.

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As a UK householder you do have the right to use reasonable force to protect your family and your property. That's it plain and simple. The lawyers make good money arguing about what ir "reasonable"
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Old 07-05-2005, 05:13 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Only a meagre 17 per cent of people have an alarm and only 37 per cent of people have window locks
• Only 4 per cent of people are a member of a Neighbourhood Watch scheme
• Only one in 10 people make changes to their home security after reading about other people being burgled despite the fact it makes them feel more vulnerable
• Women are more fearful about their security in the home with six in 10 worried about being broken into at night and eight in 10 feeling more vulnerable after reading about other people being burgled.
That's the really telling statistic, we are so worried nobody does anything about it.

In Scotland there are now calls to have the sale of air guns banned or at the very least over 18's only and licenced. We have many socialist msp's and even the odd wacko tory, (in Scotland voting Tory is almost a protest vote) none of them would dare not vote in favour of a ban like this.

We have a thing called a jury trial it's highly unlikely any jury would convict if you were acting in self defence. Shooting someone in the back now, that's frowned upon.

The law isn't weighted in favour of criminals but some of the sentences handed down begger belief, that's not the fault of the law it's the judge imposing the sentence.

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That's the really telling statistic, we are so worried nobody does anything about it.

In Scotland there are now calls to have the sale of air guns banned or at the very least over 18's only and licenced. We have many socialist msp's and even the odd wacko tory, (in Scotland voting Tory is almost a protest vote) none of them would dare not vote in favour of a ban like this.

We have a thing called a jury trial it's highly unlikely any jury would convict if you were acting in self defence. Shooting someone in the back now, that's frowned upon.

The law isn't weighted in favour of criminals but some of the sentences handed down begger belief, that's not the fault of the law it's the judge imposing the sentence.
Sounds to me like a goverment run amok. Sounds to me a place turned upside down where a citizen has been castrated to the point where even thinking about taking action is an alien concept.

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