Poll - BTS v Bryn Mawr regarding health care - non-US posters only

[spot]

National Health System poll

BTS has invited a poll on whether European, Canadian and any other members with access to socialist health care (a National Health Service) regard it as "better than Americas pay as you go, unless you are broke or an illegal then it is FREE system?"

There's a parallel US poll to go with this requested by Bryn Mawr.

Please only vote in this thread if you live outside the USA and have access to access to socialist health care. Thank you for your cooperation.

[Pheasy]

Originally Posted by spot

National Health System poll

BTS has invited a poll on whether European, Canadian and any other members with access to socialist health care (a National Health Service) regard it as "better than Americas pay as you go, unless you are broke or an illegal then it is FREE system?"

There's a parallel US poll to go with this requested by Bryn Mawr.

Please only vote in this thread if you live outside the USA and have access to access to socialist health care. Thank you for your cooperation.

I voted in both

[spot]

Originally Posted by ThePheasant

I voted in both

and you, being so peculiar and strange, are permitted.

[Pheasy]

Originally Posted by spot

and you, being so peculiar and strange, are permitted.

How did you find out!

I thought it was a requirement for all FG members (..............and moderators)

[gmc]

Originally Posted by spot

National Health System poll

BTS has invited a poll on whether European, Canadian and any other members with access to socialist health care (a National Health Service) regard it as "better than Americas pay as you go, unless you are broke or an illegal then it is FREE system?"

There's a parallel US poll to go with this requested by Bryn Mawr.

Please only vote in this thread if you live outside the USA and have access to access to socialist health care. Thank you for your cooperation.

I thought the big problem with the US one was that if you are poor then you don't get treatment. Or if you do get treatment free it is only after you are completely bankrupt trying to pay medical bills.

Apparently it is the second major cause of bankruptcies in the US

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0202-08.htm

[Galbally]

What about us in ye olde Ireland, we have a health system that involves getting vountary health insurance, or a pay as you go for those who can afford it, or if you are under a certain income bracket (basically if you are living in a box eating flies) then you get free healthcare (except dental, or optical of course because if you are poor what the fsuck would you need teeth or eyes for eh seeing as you won't have any food anyway and nothing nice to look at?)

So I propose that the we have the suckiest health system of them all, except for America of course whose health system is run by werewolves, costs the average military budget of a small European nation for the average person to fund, requires the blood of virgins to keep it going, and is brilliant at producing healthy rich people and dead poor people, though admittedly most poor people are DOA anyway from gun shot wounds so its a bit much to ask even the good people at the Mayo Clinic to raise the dead.

Though that said, health care in Colombia is also not very good, though they have lots of fairly cheap drugs, oh they also have them in afganistan so its not hard to get anasthetics just a shortage of sharp enough saws for cutting off whatever limbs the landmines have blown off). Hrumphhh.

In general I would say that France has a brilliant health system, but then the problem in France is that the country has the greatest number of very healthy unemployed people in the western world, and will soon have to resort to selling off Bordeaux to Britain in order to meet pension fund requirements so its give and take init???

[Bryn Mawr]

Originally Posted by ThePheasant

I voted in both

I believe you've said that the US does not have the best system in the world but that it's better than the NHS?

[Pheasy]

Originally Posted by Bryn Mawr

I believe you've said that the US does not have the best system in the world but that it's better than the NHS?

I voted no to both - US system not best, nor is NHS better ..... well thats what I meant anyway....surely no to both would mean that ?

[Bryn Mawr]

Originally Posted by ThePheasant

I voted no to both - US system not best, nor is NHS better ..... well thats what I meant anyway....surely no to both would mean that ?

That's what I thought. No, the non-US wording was reversed so that "I disagree" became the US is better than the NHS.

[Pheasy]

Not sure which of the two threads to post this - so its going in here.

Having lived in both the UK and USA. And having experienced NHS, and US and UK private health care. I have found both to be good in some ways and seriously lacking in others. For example, the long waiting lists to see a specialist under the NHS system (have not been under NHS for 4 years so apologise if this is not the case anymore) do not exist in USA - well not so long anyway. However, the GP's in the UK seem to be far more qualified to diagnose and treat. GP's in UK can and will carry out minor ops in their surgery too. The US system allows people to be seen a lot quicker, which, for possible life threatening illnesses, could be saving more lifes than patients in the UK. However, the doctors/specialists in USA seem to be out to make as much money as they possibly can, and will dish out medication far too easily IMO. And over here I have to see a different doctor for each different body part Makes the US GP's more like one big referral house.

Like I already said, both have good and bad points - I certainly wouldn't say either was the best. I would admit I do not know much about other countries, so really I should say, both need improvement.