Nuclear Oblivion?

[illuminati]

Osama bin Laden may soon have his hands on three Agosta 90B next-generation stealth submarines capable of carrying sixteen sea-to-land cruise missiles each. Those missiles can deliver atomic warheads. And Osama, I suspect, will have access to the forty nuclear warheads constructed by Pakistan.
Washington and New York, two primary targets for Al Qaeda, are near bodies of water from which these nuclear-tipped missiles can be launched. So are many other major American cities.
Here are the skeletal details:

http://www.howardbloom.net/Wakeup_or_Shutdown2.htm

[plazul]

Naah. Aint gonna happen.

[jayboy]

Boy a few well placed nukes, could get them out of those mountains for sure, and they know it. No matter how much could be destroyed here, there will always be 2 military people, each with a key, in a catacomb in the western US of A, and they will not hesitate to launch a counter attack. Take that to the bank.

[Tombstone]

Thank you for this post. It's fodder for a good debate.

I doubt this will happen. An accident or a rogue event? Sure. That could happen with any country that has a sub.

Here's my take on this:

1. The U.S. Navy will be shadowing and monitoring these submarines by satellite and our own subs.

2. The Pakistanis are smart folks. Their high command will make sure that all safeguards are in place before these subs leave port. They recognize and understand the response they will get if they are responsible for a strike.

[Warsai]

Somewhat (emphasis on somewhat) like the US/USSR Nuclear Arms Race. Mutually Assured Destruction if one side decides to strike. Anyone ever read Alas, Babylon? This reminds me of that book.

[capt_buzzard]

I don't really believe the old Bin Liner ever walked this earth. Another one of G.W's Jokes.

[anastrophe]

Originally Posted by jayboy

Boy a few well placed nukes, could get them out of those mountains for sure, and they know it. No matter how much could be destroyed here, there will always be 2 military people, each with a key, in a catacomb in the western US of A, and they will not hesitate to launch a counter attack. Take that to the bank.

the problem there is that those nukes aren't targettable. their destinations are hard coded. true, they can be reprogrammed in advance, and who's to say a few haven't been repointed to the hills above pakistan/afghanistan.

[homer]

Originally Posted by jayboy

Boy a few well placed nukes, could get them out of those mountains for sure, and they know it. No matter how much could be destroyed here, there will always be 2 military people, each with a key, in a catacomb in the western US of A, and they will not hesitate to launch a counter attack. Take that to the bank.

First of all, it's not going to happen. Secondly, if you're stupid enough to believe that you're strong enough to run around starting wars and massacring innocent people and getting away with it, then you've got another thing coming. 2 "military people" with a key in a catacomb won't save America from total annihilation against an enemy who's sole purpose for existence is to destroy your entire country.

Simple solution: a change of American leadership; an education of the American people as to what their government has really been up to over the last few decades since the cold war; a "practice what you preach" attitude for the USA rather than a "give us your oil and do what we say" attitude.

Same argument, different day.

[capt_buzzard]

Originally Posted by illuminati

Osama bin Laden may soon have his hands on three Agosta 90B next-generation stealth submarines capable of carrying sixteen sea-to-land cruise missiles each. Those missiles can deliver atomic warheads. And Osama, I suspect, will have access to the forty nuclear warheads constructed by Pakistan.
Washington and New York, two primary targets for Al Qaeda, are near bodies of water from which these nuclear-tipped missiles can be launched. So are many other major American cities.
Here are the skeletal details:

http://www.howardbloom.net/Wakeup_or_Shutdown2.htm

My honest opinion for what's it worth. I believe this and the Iraq war and other wars that the American people have got themselves involved in was all another sham. The American people are being Used. Used to war on the Arab/Muslim nations. The same thing happened in Vietnam. America is the patsy, and they fall for it every time. And America is going to suffer for it. All these terrorists groups now Shout "Death to America". The United Kingdom, is not yet a full EU member, but she is in for a wakeup call too. The push is on. And God help us all. Wakeup America.

[anastrophe]

Originally Posted by capt_buzzard

My honest opinion for what's it worth. I believe this and the Iraq war and other wars that the American people have got themselves involved in was all another sham. The American people are being Used. Used to war on the Arab/Muslim nations. The same thing happened in Vietnam. America is the patsy, and they fall for it every time. And America is going to suffer for it. All these terrorists groups now Shout "Death to America". The United Kingdom, is not yet a full EU member, but she is in for a wakeup call too. The push is on. And God help us all. Wakeup America.

"Death to America" has been shouted by malcontents for a hundred years.

until the rest of the world wakes up and commits the full force of their resources on violent religious extremists, they'll continue to hold the upper hand. cowards like spain will see more, not less violents. appeasing terrorists is madness.