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Amber Alert Forum The AMBER Alert System began in 1996 when Dallas-Fort Worth broadcasters teamed with local police to develop an early warning system to help find abducted children. AMBER stands for America's Missing: Broadcast Emergency Response and was created as a legacy to 9-year-old Amber Hagerman, who was kidnaped while riding her bicycle in Arlington, Texas, and then brutally murdered. Other states and communities soon set up their own AMBER plans as the idea was adopted across the nation.

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Old 05-17-2005, 02:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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this is all i have on this right now, no suspect info yet.....Tombstone keep your eyes peeled! ......



AMBER Alert for Dylan James Groene - Coeur D'Alene, ID on 05-17-2005
If you have information contact: Kootenai County Sheriff Office
Phone: 208-446-1300
Email: None

Abduction Information

Case Number: 05-11162
Date Last Seen: 05-16-2005
Time Last Seen: 06:30 PM
Location Last Seen: Interstate 90 & Frontage Road in Coeur D'Alene, ID
Incident Information

Two children are missing from the residence of a homicide investigation/suspicious death in Coeur d'Alene/Kootenai County, Idaho. Victim(s)

Victim 1

Name: Dylan James Groene
Age: 9 years
Race: White
Gender/Sex: Male
Hair Color: Blonde
Eye Color: Blue
Height: 4'0"
Weight: 60lbs
Clothing: Unknown
Other: Dylan has a short blonde crew cut.

Victim 2

Name: Shasta Kay Groene
Age: 8 years
Race: White
Gender/Sex: Female
Hair Color: Brown
Eye Color: Hazel
Height: 3'10"
Weight: 40lbs
Clothing: Unknown
Other: Shasta has long auburn brown hair to her buttocks.

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Old 05-17-2005, 02:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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.....COEUR D'ALENE, Idaho (AP) Three people were found slain in a home, and an Amber Alert was issued Tuesday for two children who live there, authorities said.

The dead were a woman believed to be the missing children's mother, a teenager believed to be their older brother and an unidentified adult male, sheriffs Capt. Ben Wolfinger said.

Authorities have no idea who took the boy and girl, he said. The missing children, Shasta Groene, 8, and her 9-year-old brother, Dillon, live at the house with their mother, the sheriffs office said.

Authorities were called about 6:15 p.m. Monday by a neighbor who reported "suspicious circumstances" at the house on a bay of Lake Coeur d'Alene, Wolfinger said.

The bodies bore obvious signs of injury, but the cause of death remained undetermined, he said. "They're treating it as an obvious homicide," Wolfinger said.

The mother and father of the children are divorced, Wolfinger said. Investigators have talked with the father, and he is not considered a suspect or person of interest.

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Old 05-17-2005, 03:02 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Here we go again.......... Does it ever stop?
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massive ground search. FBI is in now, still no suspect information. that's bad. unless the sheriff is witholding, but he would not withold car make or model. this is a real mystery. poor kids are in the company of a killer. highly endangered. if you live out that way in surrounding states, please look at their pictures carefully. what worries me is the abductor knows he/she cannot be found with those children. needs to get rid of them.

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Re: Idaho AMBER Alert

It bothers me the way they say "victim 1". I realize that yes, they are victims, but it almost sounds as if they really don't expect to find those kids alive.
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Sadly there are so many of these Amber Alerts that it's not alarming anymore. Like too many sirens at night. At the first few you jump up and peer out the window. After so many you just bump up the volume on the telly. National alerts are a great idea and have helped many but I fear the Wolf Crying so often weakens this program.

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Old 05-17-2005, 09:40 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Well david ..I may be reading this all wrong, but seems to me that 3 bodies indicates that this is not in fact a case of 'wolf'.

I just hope one of these two kids realised what was going on, grabbed the other and took off. Odds are way against it, but a moms got to hope.
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Well david ..I may be reading this all wrong, but seems to me that 3 bodies indicates that this is not in fact a case of 'wolf'.

I just hope one of these two kids realised what was going on, grabbed the other and took off. Odds are way against it, but a moms got to hope.
I meant that so many of these crimes have made the Amber system so repetitive that it isn't as alarming as before. I think my comparison to hearing so many sirens after awhile numbs you to just thinking "Oh no, another one...how awful." Of course each of these tragedies are horrible and devastating to all related, but the fact is nationalizing crime victims numbs us all even more.

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I think you're right, david. Doesn't bother me nearly as much..what happened to the other three people..but there's just something about kids being involved...
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no photo yet......... Investigators have identified a "person of interest" in a triple slaying at a home in the quaint Idaho community of Coeur d'Alene and the disappearance of two children from the home, and they've issued a lookout for an Idaho man and two pickup trucks he may be driving.

The killings have shocked the community and prompted massive searches for the two missing children, identified as 9-year-old Dylan and 8-year-old Shasta Groene.

Kootenai County Sheriff identified the person they want to talk to as Robert Roy Lutner, 33, of Hayden, Idaho. The lookout is for a 1975 Silver Ford pick-up, Idaho license K161057, or a 1990 white Toyota pickup with Idaho license K308811.

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