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Old 08-26-2004, 10:10 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Lightbulb The troubles that will not go away,

In Northern Ireland,the troubles that will not go away. Along the border with the Irish Republic- Protestant families are being intimidated and asked to leave their home by the IRA. And Americans support this terrorists group who have murdered our people in Ireland and the United Kingdom. And when the Loyalists Ulster Freedom Fighters start the mother of all battles in Ireland,will those faithful Americans supply new WMD to the leaders of both sides?

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Old 08-26-2004, 10:16 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: The troubles that will not go away,

Hi Capt Buzzard,

Can you give us ForumGardeners a little background or synopsis on this conflict? I for one would like to hear what you have to say about it. In America, we really only are aware of this conflict when there is bloodshed. And even then, many of us are not really clear about what is going on.

I can google this and find out what the "media" says, but I'm interested on your point of view.




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Old 08-26-2004, 10:24 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I could write til the cows come home,an Irish saying. Check out this and hear it from the the people in Northern Ireland now at: http://www.ulster-scots.co.uk

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Old 08-26-2004, 10:25 AM   #4 (permalink)
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In Northern Ireland,the troubles that will not go away. Along the border with the Irish Republic- Protestant families are being intimidated and asked to leave their home by the IRA. And Americans support this terrorists group who have murdered our people in Ireland and the United Kingdom.
Hard to believe that in some Irish communities Protestant children have to be escorted to school and Catholic children face similar intimidation in Protestant dominated villages.

Before the political questions like independence can be resolved there must be an ecumenical style dialog between the religious factions. I feel that the IRA is driven more by religious hatred than hatred for the Brits though I'm not discounting their passion for independence.

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Thank you for sharing this link. I'm off to read.

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I could write til the cows come home,an Irish saying. Check out this and hear it from the the people in Northern Ireland now at: http://www.ulster-scots.co.uk
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Old 08-26-2004, 10:40 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Hard to believe that in some Irish communities Protestant children have to be escorted to school and Catholic children face similar intimidation in Protestant dominated villages.

Before the political questions like independence can be resolved there must be an ecumenical style dialog between the religious factions. I feel that the IRA is driven more by religious hatred than hatred for the Brits though I'm not discounting their passion for independence.
This was part of the Dirty Tricks forum of OPUS DEI the other terrorists in Northern Ireland.

Don't believe all what you see on tv and radio. Go there see it yourself.

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Old 08-26-2004, 11:03 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: The troubles that will not go away,

I'll take a look but I think I have a grasp of the core issues. As an Irish citizen, what are your positions and do you have a viable solution?

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Old 08-26-2004, 11:14 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I'm not a politican. So the answer to your question is NO. And as you well know this is our future. After the last local elections Sinn Fein is moving up. And Dail Eireann is next. http://www.sinnfein.ie

Fianna Fail will never be elected to govern the Irish Republic again. Nor will Fine Gael. Sinn Fein is going to win the next General Election. A terrible beauty will be born.

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Old 08-26-2004, 11:19 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Hard to believe that in some Irish communities Protestant children have to be escorted to school and Catholic children face similar intimidation in Protestant dominated villages.

Before the political questions like independence can be resolved there must be an ecumenical style dialog between the religious factions. I feel that the IRA is driven more by religious hatred than hatred for the Brits though I'm not discounting their passion for independence.

We are All One in the EU today. I think the last hora stand is coming soon. The mother of all battles in Northern Ireland. The Loyalists will not give a inch nor will the Nationalists/Republicans take any less.

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Did you know that the American government tracks the activities (financial support, correspondence, etc.) of Americans involved in, "the troubles"? It's not a subject that gets much coverage in the press but the UK works closely with American law eforcement and intelligence agencies in monitoring IRA communications and intercepting weapons shipments.

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