Al-Sadr guilty of slaughter

[plazul]

I just finished reading about the gruesome discovery of hundreds of mutilated corpses in Najaf. Intelligence officials believe it's the work of al-Sadr's resistance fighters.

These attrocities are galvanizing Muslim leaders in Iran and Iraq against the extremists and I hope they call for the arrest of al-Sadr. Torture and murder of non combatants is contrary to the teaching of the Koran and I think the perpetrators will be held accountable.

Islamist terrorism is getting more sadistic every day and average Muslims living in non Muslim countries are worried that the world is getting a hideously distorted image of Islam and that there will be a violent back lash against them.

France will be a flash point and there will surely be more extremist reaction to the ban on head scarfs in public schools. What a pity.

[Warsai]

This is just wrong. How do al-Sadr's fighters believe that murdering hundreds is what Allah commands? The coward should be punished for what he has done. What's happening in France is just sad. Does it hurt anybody if a Muslim girl wears a head-scarf. Does it hurt anybody if a Christian wears a cross around his/her neck?

[capt_buzzard]

Nah, or did it hurt to dress up in the KKK garb, or the Irish tricolour head bands,or the Orange collorette. For some folk,it still does.

[Warsai]

Originally Posted by capt_buzzard

Nah, or did it hurt to dress up in the KKK garb, or the Irish tricolour head bands,or the Orange collorette. For some folk,it still does.

Just because someone is emotionally hurt by the clothes someone else wears doesn't mean we should forbid someone to wear it. I wouldn't like it if someone came up to me dressed in white robes and a ghost-like white hood, but he/she should be able to wear it if he wants. The schools in France should not forbid the students to display signs of religion in the clothes they wear.

[Bill Sikes]

Originally Posted by Warsai

Just because someone is emotionally hurt by the clothes someone else wears doesn't mean we should forbid someone to wear it. I wouldn't like it if someone came up to me dressed in white robes and a ghost-like white hood, but he/she should be able to wear it if he wants. The schools in France should not forbid the students to display signs of religion in the clothes they wear.

People can also be "emotionally hurt" by words.... should we *not* forbid
racist abuse, for instance?

There are issues with dress code in schools here, too - look at:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/3808073.stm

There, a schoolgirl wanted to wear something against the school's dress code,
and IIRC was excluded. There were alternatives that would have suited her
religion, but she did not avail herself of them.

[plazul]

In addition to maintaining state neutrality towards religion I think the dress code is also to protect minority religions from the tyranny of the majority. It is a dilemma for devout Muslims though and the only solution I can think of is for them to start their own schools.

I can't say that I sympathize with Muslim immigrants who want to change their new country's laws to accommodate their native country's culture.

[capt_buzzard]

Most schools here wear a school or college uniform. They have done it for years,but these Muslims want to be different than us in the West. Well,the way I see it
is,if they want it so bad,let them all return to they own countries.If France gives in to these terrorists.They will demand something else,perhaps to form their own government

[Warsai]

Originally Posted by Bill Sikes

People can also be "emotionally hurt" by words.... should we *not* forbid
racist abuse, for instance?

There are issues with dress code in schools here, too - look at:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/3808073.stm

There, a schoolgirl wanted to wear something against the school's dress code,
and IIRC was excluded. There were alternatives that would have suited her
religion, but she did not avail herself of them.

I'm going to say it blankly, racial slurs are constitutional. The government should not be allowed to restrict freedom of speech. I hate it when people use racial slurs, it's demeaning to an entire race of people, but it is constitutional. If a girl wants to wear a full Muslim dress, then they shouldn't restrict that.

[capt_buzzard]

Someone has to make a stand against these people. Or they will take over. Who knows, perhaps they will try something in New York or Washington next.

The British public had it last year,now France. I doubt very much they try it in Germany or Belguim.