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Old 06-02-2009, 04:37 PM   #21 (permalink)
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If he was pronounced dead at 8, by a physician, I don't understand ..

Were they just left alone at the home with the dead body of their child? Is that normal?

I wondered the same thing as well?
Didn't sound right to me either.
The story is just so overwhelmingly sad.
And the bag of toys just made it so much sadder.

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Old 06-02-2009, 11:52 PM   #22 (permalink)
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The reason I mentioned the press leaving the family alone was because having been through the scene of having a family member commit suicide in a public place I know what can happen.
First it appears in the press as a simple report and then the 'family friends'come out of the woodwork getting quoted in newspapers adding to the anguish of direct relatives. Before you know it people are taking photos of the scene, your house nosing around at the funeral ect ect.

Its difficult enough without all of that.

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Old 06-03-2009, 06:03 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Beachy Head suicide: First picture of Sam Puttick, 5, whose meningitis death sparked family's fatal jump | Mail Online

The poor little boy was paralysed from the neck down from a car crash when he wa very young.
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The reason I mentioned the press leaving the family alone was because having been through the scene of having a family member commit suicide in a public place I know what can happen.
First it appears in the press as a simple report and then the 'family friends'come out of the woodwork getting quoted in newspapers adding to the anguish of direct relatives. Before you know it people are taking photos of the scene, your house nosing around at the funeral ect ect.

Its difficult enough without all of that.


This is very true as they want all the facts. Its never just a simple report.

Plus which was horribly to read, that little boy was also paralyzed with his other medical conditions.

but what really bothers me ....no coroner pronounces someone dead...and leaves the body at the home.....they are automatically taken to a morgue or funeral home.

so there's tons more stuff still to come....

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This is very true as they want all the facts. Its never just a simple report.

Plus which was horribly to read, that little boy was also paralyzed with his other medical conditions.

but what really bothers me ....no coroner pronounces someone dead........and leave the body at the home.....they are automatically taken to a morgue or funeral home.

so there's tons more stuff still to come....
we can have our dead at home with us here sometimes Odie,,, and i dont know about now but even years ago,, we were allowed to take home a deceased baby to say goodbye,,, to give them a bit more time with them It wouldnt have been a coronor ,, it would have been organised just for the doctor to come out and pronounce the death as an officialdom,, then they maybe could have been left for a while,, as the baby was sent home with them from hospital to die peacefully at home.
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but what really bothers me ....no coroner pronounces someone dead...and leaves the body at the home.....they are automatically taken to a morgue or funeral home.
Not if they have only just passed away at home. When anyone dies at home, you have to phone the police and doctor to have them pronounced dead to get a death certificate. Coroners and funeral home staff don't hang around people's houses waiting for people to die. They only come out when they get a phone call to say that a person has died. It's likely that the moment the little boy died, they did not contact anyone and just planned the suicide before the authorities could take the childs body away.
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we can have our dead at home with us here sometimes Odie,,, and i dont know about now but even years ago,, we were allowed to take home a deceased baby to say goodbye,,, to give them a bit more time with them It wouldnt have been a coronor ,, it would have been organised just for the doctor to come out and pronounce the death as an officialdom,, then they maybe could have been left for a while,, as the baby was sent home with them from hospital to die peacefully at home.
You just said what i said....... are you following me Mrs?
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You just said what i said....... are you following me Mrs?
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Not if they have only just passed away at home. When anyone dies at home, you have to phone the police and doctor to have them pronounced dead to get a death certificate. Coroners and funeral home staff don't hang around people's houses waiting for people to die. They only come out when they get a phone call to say that a person has died. It's likely that the moment the little boy died, they did not contact anyone and just planned the suicide before the authorities could take the childs body away.
I am a bit confused. If the boy was pronounced dead before the suicide, if it were in the states, someone from the rescue squad or police department, would have stayed until the person was taken to the morgue or the funeral home. Never is the body left at the site unattended here. Maybe I read it wrong.
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