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Old 06-03-2009, 03:50 PM   #41 (permalink)
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perhaps this will help with why I am asking why they don't embalm:




Moment of Death:
1} The heart stops
2} The skin gets tight and grey in color
3} All the muscles relax
4} The bladder and bowels empty
. . . .4a - Men will get an erection. No, I don't know when, exactly. I really didn't feel like calling up the local mortuary and asking this. And there's people on my mailing list I could have asked, I bet, but it's kind of weird popping up and asking that. No pun intended. I'm not sure my parents know what erections are, so I can't ask them. I did read that this was one of the reasons hangings were so well attended by women, back in the old.days. Big Laffs, seeing the Hung, hung.
5} The body's temperature will typically drop 1.5 degrees F. per hour unless outside environment is a factor. The liver is the organ that stays warmest the longest, and this temperature is used to establish time of death if the body is found within that time frame.

* After 30 minutes:
6} The skin gets purple and waxy
7} The lips, finger- and toe nails fade to a pale color or turn white as the blood leaves.
8} Blood pools at the lowest parts of the body leaving a dark purple-black stain called lividity
9} The hands and feet turn blue
10} The eyes start to sink into the skull

* After 4 hours:
11} Rigor mortis starts to set in
12} The purpling of the skin and pooling of blood continue
13} Rigor Mortis begins to tighten the muscles for about another 24 hours, then will reverse and the body will return to a limp state.

* After 12 hours:
14} The body is in full rigor mortis.

* After 24 hours:
15} The body is now the temperature of the surrounding environment
16} In males, the semen dies
17} The head and neck are now a greenish-blue color
18} The greenish-blue color continues to spread to the rest of the body
19} There is the strong smell of rotting meat
20} The face of the person is essentially no longer recognizable

* After 3 days:
21} The gases in the body tissues form large blisters on the skin
22} The whole body begins to bloat and swell grotesquely. This process is speeded up if victim is in a hot environment, or in water
23} Fluids leak from the mouth, nose, eyes, ears and rectum and urinary opening

* After 3 weeks:
24} The skin, hair, and nails are so loose they can be easily pulled off the corpse
25} The skin cracks and bursts open in many places because of the pressure of Internal gases and the breakdown of the skin itself
26} Decomposition will continue until body is nothing but skeletal remains, which can take as little as a month in hot climates and two months in cold climates. The teeth are often the only thing left, years and centuries later, because tooth enamel is the strongest substance in the body. The jawbone is the densest, so that usually will also remain.
I doubt your source there..... anyone who has had a body laid at home for a week before the funeral will know different.
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Old 06-04-2009, 12:29 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Embalming is not done in this country and burial is within 5 days. (by law)

Some people look ok, my father just looked very small like a dolly, but some look awful my son saw his work mate after just 4 days and said it was like dawn of the dead, nasty.
I think it depends on the person and the manner of death as well as outside influence.temp ect

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I doubt your source there..... anyone who has had a body laid at home for a week before the funeral will know different.
yes thats true,, and even if the body is kept at the funeral home people can go and see the deceased if they wish ,,, to say goodbye etc.

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Embalming is not done in this country and burial is within 5 days. (by law)

Some people look ok, my father just looked very small like a dolly, but some look awful my son saw his work mate after just 4 days and said it was like dawn of the dead, nasty.
I think it depends on the person and the manner of death as well as outside influence.temp ect
thats also true i think Victoria ,,, the manner of death
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Old 06-04-2009, 05:45 AM   #44 (permalink)
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Embalming is not done in this country and burial is within 5 days. (by law)

Some people look ok, my father just looked very small like a dolly, but some look awful my son saw his work mate after just 4 days and said it was like dawn of the dead, nasty.
I think it depends on the person and the manner of death as well as outside influence.temp ect
Thanks Victoria, that explains why the coroner left the child at home.

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Thanks Victoria, that explains why the coroner left the child at home.
In Britain we do not have Coronors. The article clearly states the Doctor left the home after pronouncing the boy dead. Only deaths in suspicious circumstances in this country are visited by Pathologists and forensics.
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In Britain we do not have Coronors.
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sorry, yes doctor..........just used to coroner's here.

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Yes, but they don't go to the home of a natural death. The doctor goes to pronounce them dead. Yes, of course we have coroners. Sorry Bill, i've had one heck of a week here...... the brains not in gear yet.
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