"Bikies being little girls"

[Nomad]

Originally Posted by AussiePam

I agree with what you've all said. I guess the point I was trying to make was not about the bikers at all, but about using women (little girls) as some kind of ultimate perjorative idea. Why should 'little girls' be a taunt out of desperation at a group of men? It's a bit like saying some really nasty humans act like animals. These nasty men act like little girls. Not!

Its an assault on their masculinity and integrity such as it is. Theyre probably trying to goad them and calling a tough guy a little girl is probably a last ditch effort to incite some type of reasoning in them.
Sounds pretty lame to me.
If bullets are flying they should get our version of extreme law like the US Marshalls involved and be out there when these guys are riding stopping them running them for warrants busting down some front doors.
You know like law enforcement.

[Chezzie]

Originally Posted by Nomad

Its an assault on their masculinity and integrity such as it is. Theyre probably trying to goad them and calling a tough guy a little girl is probably a last ditch effort to incite some type of reasoning in them.
Sounds pretty lame to me.
If bullets are flying they should get our version of extreme law like the US Marshalls involved and be out there when these guys are riding stopping them running them for warrants busting down some front doors.
You know like law enforcement.

Nomad I hear you singing

"On the gOOOOd ship Lollypop"

Stop twirling yer ringlets

[fuzzywuzzy]

They are girls. I've faced off with an entire bikie gang before. The banditoes are just filth. The hells angels are lawyered up to the hilt.

Put them all on a small island and let them kill each other. They are criminals.

[AussiePam]

Originally Posted by fuzzywuzzy

They are girls. I've faced off with an entire bikie gang before. The banditoes are just filth. The hells angels are lawyered up to the hilt.

Put them all on a small island and let them kill each other. They are criminals.

We're on two different planets here.. I guess I still don't think being a girl equals being criminal or filth.

[fuzzywuzzy]

No pammy I know what you mean and if we are to take the feminist route you can't deny how girls are . They are sweet, considerate, and stubborn. that's the basics of making us women, and we shouldn't see it as a negative because it's not .....but then again how many times have you told someone they are acting like a two year old? two year olds are allowed to shout and scream and throw tantrums ...but and adult doing this is un acceptable.. I think this is where the police are coming from (nomads right ..as much as it pains me to say) they are relating normal human childlike behaviour to grown men who should know better . And i know it's harsh . It's acceptable for girls to behave in a manner befitting them . put a gun in their hands and see what comes of it? but grown men doing the same? that's not acceptable.

but i"m serious I have faced off a bikie gang and it was as easy as telling a stubborn synical girl child to pull her head in. Okay maybe girls are a little more difficult. What amazed me was they acted like a gang of teenage girls ...it was (afterwards ) hilarious. I'm not sure of their take on family , but it was very "tigress" behaviour. Unfortunetly one of their cubs was about to get the **** beaten out of them....just my interpretation of the incident.

[AussiePam]

Yeah, I know your heart is in the right place, Fuz!!!

I remember doing some sparring at a boot camp and the police instructor told me I was punching like a girl. So I punched him like a man, and knocked him down. I don't know why I suddenly thought of this. I think the way real women can fight is far more scary than the way most men actually fight. It's just that women don't normally do it, unless their family is threatened.

[fuzzywuzzy]

( my husband has always said he's more frightened of women going off their nuts ) they tend to cause more damage.

"unless their family is threatened" ...I think these men are exploiting the word 'family' and what it really means to protect family ....if you're a woman then you know whats right ...if your a girl you just lash out. bitchily too.... but men just need a reason even if their heart is not into it. sometimes they use ours ...and exploit it.....never forget that.'

look up what bikies believe in (supposedly) then look up what they are exploiting... womens lib matierial. It's disgusting to have to make the comparison.

If bikies are so dickless to pretend that the womens movement and it's constitutional values is an excuse ( and act on such ) maybe women everywhere should know this ...co-incidence?

these are the same people that "marry" women ...(essentially owning them). what a slap in the face to females everywhere. trust me, came very close, I assure you . And I was only sixteen. thank god I had a head on my shoulders.


they are essentially little girls ...which behaviour wise is acceptable for little girls . but for grown men ?????????? ...........trust me it's an insult. don't change the behaviours of little girls they are entitled to that .....change the behaviour of grown men .

[mrsK]

Originally Posted by AussiePam

I agree with what you've all said. I guess the point I was trying to make was not about the bikers at all, but about using women (little girls) as some kind of ultimate perjorative idea. Why should 'little girls' be a taunt out of desperation at a group of men? It's a bit like saying some really nasty humans act like animals. These nasty men act like little girls. Not!

It is a taunt because they have complex's about some unknown thing.

Why not like "little boys" because that would be casting apersions over their own sex,its easier to choose the "little girls" indicating they are the weaker of the two sexes

It gives me the tom tits when these things happen.

[AussiePam]

Someone once told me I drive like a man - and this was intended as a compliment.

As a woman, and ex-girl, I really do not care for remarks that undermine women. And anyone who intends calling someone a girl as a disparaging remark, is belittling all women. As is complimenting a woman driver by saying she drives like a man.

I fight like a woman. I drive like a woman. I am a woman. I have no wish to be a man. And I don't like it when my sex is used as an insult. Maybe it's just a verbal thing, but it underlines a deeper way of thinking - something we should all move on from.

If male bikies are acting like criminals, that should be what they are called. If they are acting like cowardly criminals, that is what they should be called. If they are acting like cowardly, criminal bullies with no redeeming features at all, say that!!!!!

[fuzzywuzzy]

hhhmmm maybe we shouldn't be getting our backs up about what the police said.
but maybe the reasoning and constitution of the bikie gangs in the first place. .....they borrow their reasoning and altogether being from other institutions..... womens feminism charters for one.

Does it actually occur to anyone that in the media that the police and their resources have figured this out? And that's why the subliminal message? Has no one recognised that behind the scenes some female constable said ..."Woah hold up!!!! how dare you use that reasoning".....???????? towards the bikers actions rather than the police suggestions? and that's what they were playing on.?