Maybe it's not Socialism They're Going For After All

[Accountable]

US 1916-1945 Winged Head Or Mercury Dime History | Coin Community
Fascist symbolism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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A pundit said we're headed for Fascism & have been for years. Do you think he has a point??

[oscar]

Originally Posted by Accountable

US 1916-1945 Winged Head Or Mercury Dime History | Coin Community
Fascist symbolism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Look at the pictures.
One of these things is just like the other!


A pundit said we're headed for Fascism & have been for years. Do you think he has a point??

I have been looking at an alternative party here for a while that is considered Fascist. It even has a group that wants to see it out-lawed in this country. I don't know how it works in the states but i do know from what i have seen of this party here, many many people are sick of the Labour/Conservative main party choice and recruitment figures to the Independent's are on the an alarming up.

[Accountable]

Nah. Anybody that's seriously serious about fashioning a fascist state would never state that a fascist state is in fashion.

It's the result that's key.

[gmc]

Originally Posted by Accountable

US 1916-1945 Winged Head Or Mercury Dime History | Coin Community
Fascist symbolism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Look at the pictures.
One of these things is just like the other!


A pundit said we're headed for Fascism & have been for years. Do you think he has a point??

Try this link. I wouldn't read too much in to it though. Now the fasces has sinister connotations and become synonymous with right wing oppression and ultra nationalism that wasn't the case in 1776.

Fasces - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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In the Oval Office, above the door leading to the exterior walkway, and above the corresponding door on the opposite wall, which leads to the President's private office. (Note: the fasces depicted have no axes, possibly because in the Roman Republic, the blade was always removed from the bundle whenever the fasces were carried inside the city, in order to symbolize the rights of citizens against arbitrary state power (see above).)

National Guard Bureau insignia

* The National Guard uses the fasces on the seal of the National Guard Bureau, and it appears in the insignia of Regular Army officers assigned to National Guard liaison and in the insignia and unit symbols of National Guard units themselves. For instance, the regimental crest of the U.S. 71st Infantry Regiment of the New York National Guard consisted of a gold fasces set on a blue background.
* The reverse of the United States "Mercury" dime (minted from 1916 to 1945) bears the design of a fasces and an olive branch.
* Two fasces appear on either side of the flag of the United States in the United States House of Representatives, representing the power of the House and the country.
* The Mace of the United States House of Representatives, designed to resemble fasces, consists of thirteen ebony rods bound together in the same fashion as the fasces, topped by a silver eagle on a globe.
* The official seal of the United States Senate has as one component a pair of crossed fasces.
* Fasces ring the base of the Statue of Freedom atop the United States Capitol building.
* A frieze on the facade of the United States Supreme Court building depicts the figure of a Roman centurion holding a fasces, to represent "order".[4]
* At the Lincoln Memorial, Lincoln's seat of state bears the fasces—without axes—on the fronts of its arms. (Fasces also appear on the pylons flanking the main staircase leading into the memorial.)
* The official seal of the United States Tax Court bears the fasces at its center.
* Four fasces flank the two bronze plaques on either side of the bust of Lincoln memorializing his Gettysburg Address at Gettysburg, Pennsylvania.
* The fasces appears on the state seal of Colorado, USA, beneath the "All-seeing eye" (or Eye of Providence) and above the mountains and mines.
* On the seal of the New York City borough of Brooklyn, a figure carries a fasces; the seal appears on the borough flag. Fasces can also be seen in the stone columns at Grand Army Plaza.
* Used as part of the Knights of Columbus emblem (designed in 1883).
* Many local police departments use the fasces as part of their badges and other symbols. For instance, the top border of the Los Angeles Police Department badge features a fasces. (1940)
* Commercially, a small fasces appeared at the top of one of the insignia of the Hupmobile car.
* A fasces appears on the statue of George Washington, made by Jean-Antoine Houdon which is now in the Virginia State Capital
* VAW-116 have a fasces on their unit insigina
* San Francisco's Coit Tower has two fasces-like insignia (without the axe) carved above its entrance, flanking a Phoenix.
* The seal of the United States Courts Administrative Office

Your founding fathers were mightily impressed by the romans. Washington's particular hero seems to have been the roman dictator (another word that now has sinister connotations) cincinnatus though that's maybe just latter day romanticism. never actually checked in to that in great detail. It's a nice story though.

The meaning of the word republic hasn't changed although some would try and convince otherwise.

The swastika was a good luck symbol until the nazis started using it just as the fasces was merely a symbol of civil power and authority-as opposed to military or royal authority.

[Accountable]

The guy pointed to the dime and then the WWII era Italian symbol. Sweat was on his lip. He couldn't believe the government has been on this path for so long! His stagehand or somebody had noticed it but he had completely missed it. OMG!!

It must've been right before airtime, because he hadn't noticed that the dime was first minted in 1916. Wasn't Italy an ally in WWI?

I'm hoping a historian or hobbyist will take him to task via email. He's the type to backtrack if he finds out he's wrong.

[gmc]

Originally Posted by Accountable

The guy pointed to the dime and then the WWII era Italian symbol. Sweat was on his lip. He couldn't believe the government has been on this path for so long! His stagehand or somebody had noticed it but he had completely missed it. OMG!!

It must've been right before airtime, because he hadn't noticed that the dime was first minted in 1916. Wasn't Italy an ally in WWI?

I'm hoping a historian or hobbyist will take him to task via email. He's the type to backtrack if he finds out he's wrong.

So was Japan come to that. Good job he hasn't noticed the ones on the great seal.

Would a dime of that vintage still be valid currency? Decimal currency eh! you took a lot of ideas from the french didn't you

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The buzzword control tactics used by corporate media to control our minds and lives pisses me off. I was listening to a podcast of The Joan Kenley Show called The Media: What’s True, What’s Not just now that addressed the ways the flailing, frightened right-wing newsmedia are creating false realities that actually do convince a number of Americans (including some of us). I guess throwing the word “socialism” around as if there is no difference between a communist country and one that favors social programs didn't work, so now it's "fascism"... and I can't even draw any parallels for that one. Good grief.

[gmc]

I'm puzzled. You can't study the history of the 20th century without also studying fascism and socialism. It's part of our school curriculum-maybe not in great detail but enough to give a basic understanding of the differences-most people at least have heard of the nazis. In america is its not part of your school curriculum?