I hardly call THIS a crime:

[Milly]

Originally Posted by spot

If it were her property which the children repeatedly refused to return, would you think a third-party solution justified with the story turned that way about?

I'm not saying a third party shouldn't be involved in cases that have gone on as long as the case above has.... What I am saying is that I feel in this particular case the problem lies with the children harrassing this woman and had the problem been the other way around, I would feel exactly the same....

This was all unnecessary and had the parents had the good common sense to just ask their kids to play elsewhere it would never have gotten to where it is now....

[Milly]

I gotta go shopping now... I'm not being a coward and running from the topic... I'll be back!

[spot]

Originally Posted by Milly

I'm not saying a third party shouldn't be involved in cases that have gone on as long as the case above has.... What I am saying is that I feel in this particular case the problem lies with the children harrassing this woman and had the problem been the other way around, I would feel exactly the same....

This was all unnecessary and had the parents had the good common sense to just ask their kids to play elsewhere it would never have gotten to where it is now....

had the problem been the other way around, you would feel exactly the same that it was the children harassing this woman? Or am I misunderstanding you?

[Milly]

Originally Posted by spot

had the problem been the other way around, you would feel exactly the same that it was the children harassing this woman? Or am I misunderstanding you?

AGHHHHHHHHH I gotta get ready! LOL...

I'm saying -

If the old lady was constantly 'unecessarily' chucking things into the garden of the children and then demanding they stop whatever it is they're doing and return said items causing them much upset in having to do so time after time I'd consider that harrassment too.... There's just no need for it....

[K.Snyder]

Originally Posted by RedGlitter

Wow.....the woman's a bitch because she wants to be left alone in her own home? You know how I feel about men calling women bitches, but that's between us. You're not understanding that if the woman doesn't want their ball in her yard for any reason she's in the right. Its HER yard. End of! :P *hehe*

No it's not her yard, it's everyone's yard. End of.

But the facts having been presented to the thread never at any point illustrated that anything upon her "property" were damaged and if her "property" were damaged then she would be entitled to be upset...

The facts as of yet state that she denied the child's preference to have their ball returned out of sheer spite...

Facts are the key in determining the integrity behind any given situation.

As I've stated before, upon any of her property being damaged she, in my own mind, is completely and utterly justified in being upset...

If not then she's a bitch. End of.

[RedGlitter]

All right K. Here's a fact: if you buy something you own it. Her yard is her yard.And whether sh ewants to stick pink flamingoes in it or ban kids from it, whatever, its her right and no she isn't a bitch for it. Not everyone adores kids beyond reason and they're not bad if they don't.

What is likely is that the parents and the kids regard this woman as a cranky old sourpuss and have no regard for her feelings or her rights. Personally, having been around enough kids,I doubt the ball just kept happily rolling into her yard. Its more likely she told them to keep the ball out of her yard and then the next time it went thwacking into her kitchen wall. Then five times later she'd had enough of their sh*t and confiscated the ball. I say good. If the kids can't respect her enough to control their ball, then they lose it. Now maybe they'll learn. Wow this attitude that she's a bitch; wish you'd find a more acceptable term because I really have disrespect for that, seriously. But again I suppose thats between us.

[K.Snyder]

Originally Posted by Milly

I'm not saying a third party shouldn't be involved in cases that have gone on as long as the case above has.... What I am saying is that I feel in this particular case the problem lies with the children harrassing this woman and had the problem been the other way around, I would feel exactly the same....

This was all unnecessary and had the parents had the good common sense to just ask their kids to play elsewhere it would never have gotten to where it is now....

I personally feel, given the current facts, that the woman is to blame for depriving these children of an eventful childhood and memorization to the point of a potentially happy future having been negated by a woman's lack of empathy.

Obviously given the current facts of course.

[mrsK]

Originally Posted by valerie

Poor lady. Really burns me up.

89yearold

Two sides to every story.
Don't think the lady deserves the big fine or jail.
The kids need to play somewhere as well.
Mediation is needed

[RedGlitter]

Originally Posted by K.Snyder

I personally feel, given the current facts, that the woman is to blame for depriving these children of an eventful childhood and memorization to the point of a potentially happy future having been negated by a woman's lack of empathy.

Obviously given the current facts of course.

*whacks K upside the head with wet noodle*

Give me a break, pal! These kids are no more important than this woman. Their "right to have a childhood" as demonstrated by a freaking ball, is no more important than her right to live out her days in a peaceful existence. K, don't make me fly to Ohio and show you the error of your ways, buddy. I'm crazy enough I might do it.

[K.Snyder]

Originally Posted by RedGlitter

All right K. Here's a fact: if you buy something you own it. Her yard is her yard.And whether sh ewants to stick pink flamingoes in it or ban kids from it, whatever, its her right and no she isn't a bitch for it. Not everyone adores kids beyond reason and they're not bad if they don't.

Ok first of all,..YOU!!!!...


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I'm not being honery I swear!!!!!!!...

Ok but seriously you're defining "right" by the law of man and I am not...Both can be argued so this is argumentative.

Technically, as I've stated she has the "right" to keep the ball. I've stated that. I have no illusions about thus.

Originally Posted by RedGlitter

What is likely is that the parents and the kids regard this woman as a cranky old sourpuss and have no regard for her feelings or her rights. Personally, having been around enough kids,I doubt the ball just kept happily rolling into her yard. Its more likely she told them to keep the ball out of her yard and then the next time it went thwacking into her kitchen wall. Then five times later she'd had enough of their sh*t and confiscated the ball.

Those weren't the facts having been presented to the thread...What I've done is placed my logic behind the information that has been presented to me...

What is your logic as to why the woman is justified in keeping the ball(s) given the current facts having been presented?...No damage has been presented to the case keep in mind...

Originally Posted by RedGlitter

I say good. If the kids can't respect her enough to control their ball, then they lose it. Now maybe they'll learn. Wow this attitude that she's a bitch; wish you'd find a more acceptable term because I really have disrespect for that, seriously. But again I suppose thats between us.

I'm leaning towards the possibility you feel the woman should keep the ball out of sheer spite...I sincerely do not respect people who are spiteful with ill intentions. I'm sincerely as well am not implying you're spiteful.

Why do you give justification in the woman keeping the ball?...