FBI's Most Wanted List....

[kazalala]

Originally Posted by spot

Last time I rang to report what appeared to be a break-in I had a paddy wagon with three officers on site within three minutes of dialing - the response was under way while I was still providing explanatory information to the controller. That was in late 2007. I think that's fairly typical.

not that i have had to call the police for any reason since i moved here,,, but where i am living now i imagine that might actually be true,,(or thereabouts) where i used to live before ,, um no. Bit class conscious our police here i find

[oscar]

Originally Posted by kazalala

not that i have had to call the police for any reason since i moved here,,, but where i am living now i imagine that might actually be true,,(or thereabouts) where i used to live before ,, um no. Bit class conscious our police here i find

Did you see that news item last night Kaz that said the percentage of youths going through the penal system are still predominatly black even after the police were said to be guilty of rascism in the Steven Lawrence case?

[kazalala]

Originally Posted by oscar

Did you see that news item last night Kaz that said the percentage of youths going through the penal system are still predominatly black even after the police were said to be guilty of rascism in the Steven Lawrence case?

nope ,, didnt see that ,,, as far as my opinion goes ,, police are people and they will have their own views which will sometimes colour their job,, prejudices, ideals, whatever, what makes it worse is you dont feel its going to do any good to complain.

[oscar]

Originally Posted by kazalala

nope ,, didnt see that ,,, as far as my opinion goes ,, police are people and they will have their own views which will sometimes colour their job,, prejudices, ideals, whatever, what makes it worse is you dont feel its going to do any good to complain.

Your right. There are good officers out there but in any proffession you will have the one's that are a bloody disgrace based on their own individual ideals. Most decent officers in the force don't want the idiots in there to bring disgrace on them and damage the reputation of the police.

[spot]

Originally Posted by oscar

They can not respond quicker in the main due to the force being under-manned.
Any targets set in the past or any future targets are futile until the Government invests heavilly into the Force and puts more bodies out there. Only then can they have a reasonable chance of achieving anything.

I'd privatize the entire system and have several competing companies providing a genuine police service instead of the paramilitary enforcement squads we currently fork out for. I'd place a complete ban on any existing officer being recruited to the privatized area too on the grounds of incompetence and a systemic willingness to lie on oath.

[oscar]

Originally Posted by spot

I'd privatize the entire system and have several competing companies providing a genuine police service instead of the current paramilitary enforcement squads we currently fork out for. I'd place a complete ban on any existing officer being recruited to the privatized area too on the grounds of incompetence and a systemic willingness to lie on oath.

I'm with you 100%. Yes, the systematic willingness to lie on oath. Even the PCC does not take this practice by officers seriousley enough.

Did you see the stats the Lib dems came up with showing that in just a few counties, there are over 1,000 police officers still serving with criminal records including in some cases, serious assault? Cleggy Boy stated he will obtain and expose the stats for the UK in time. That will be interesting. It makes a mockery of the judicial system when the enforcers of law have broken the law.

[along-for-the-ride]

Perhaps some of these 10 "most wanted" are living in one of these places:

Top Ten Fugitive Destinations - Crime Library on truTV.com

[Odie]

Originally Posted by along-for-the-ride

Perhaps some of these 10 "most wanted" are living in one of these places:

Top Ten Fugitive Destinations - Crime Library on truTV.com

Canada


Richard Lee McNair
Bigger than the U.S. by 60 thousand square miles with one-ninth the population, Canada has a lot of space for the felonious fugitive who doesn't mind the country's challenging climate. One such cold-resistant criminal — convicted of a 1987 murder in chilly North Dakota — is Richard Lee McNair. Having escaped from prison twice, once by hiding in a mail bag and once via a ventilation duct, McNair earned himself a spot on the U.S. Marshals Service 15 Most Wanted List and a feature on America's Most Wanted. In 2007, he was finally captured by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, which he had narrowly eluded a year prior, in remote Campbellton, New Brunswick.



hats off to our Mounties!

[Rapunzel]

Originally Posted by spot

I'd privatize the entire system and have several competing companies providing a genuine police service instead of the paramilitary enforcement squads we currently fork out for. I'd place a complete ban on any existing officer being recruited to the privatized area too on the grounds of incompetence and a systemic willingness to lie on oath.

Privatization means that each police force in the country would have to make money in order to survive and grow. How on earth would they do that?

Also, I don't agree with your total ban on existing officers, there are some damn fine bobbies out there. You shouldn't let the few bad apples blacken all their names. (There are more than a few but many less than the whole).

[spot]

Originally Posted by Rapunzel

Privatization means that each police force in the country would have to make money in order to survive and grow. How on earth would they do that?

For one thing I'd allow the competing companies to be national instead of the current regional arrangement. I'd allow information to be laid by anyone at all directly to the Director of Public Prosecutions who'd retain their current remit to prosecute unless there's an overriding public interest not to, with payment to the person or company laying the information only where it results in conviction - for one thing that would allow me to clear my local streets of all those blasted cars parked on pavements which the local force refuses to persecute on my behalf. Government priorities on which type of crime to focus on with more persistence could be driven by the rate paid for each category of prosecution.

I think the consequence would be a major rise in the proportion of crimes which lead to quick convictions, which is the only thing which will bring down the crime rate through deterrence. There'd need to be a centralized system of reporting crime just as railtrack is a centralized system providing the infrastructure on which competing rail service providers operate.