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Old 08-31-2006, 11:37 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Katherine Harris..."Sparation Church/State a lie..."

U.S. Rep. Katherine Harris told a religious journal that separation of church and state is "a lie" and God and the nation's founding fathers did not intend the country be "a nation of secular laws."

The Republican candidate for U.S. Senate also said that if Christians are not elected, politicians will "legislate sin," including abortion and gay marriage.

Harris made the comments -- which she clarified Saturday -- in the Florida Baptist Witness, the weekly journal of the Florida Baptist State Convention, which interviewed political candidates and asked them about religion and their positions on issues.

Separation of church and state is "a lie we have been told," Harris said in the interview, published Thursday, saying separating religion and politics is "wrong because God is the one who chooses our rulers."

"If you're not electing Christians, then in essence you are going to legislate sin," Harris said.

Her comments drew criticism, including some from fellow Republicans, who called them offensive and not representative of the party.

++++++++++++++ Guess Ms. Harris never read Jefferson's thoughts on establishment of "a Christian state." Interesting that "some fellow Republicans" backed away from her.
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Old 08-31-2006, 11:40 AM   #2 (permalink)
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U.S. Rep. Katherine Harris told a religious journal that separation of church and state is "a lie" and God and the nation's founding fathers did not intend the country be "a nation of secular laws."

The Republican candidate for U.S. Senate also said that if Christians are not elected, politicians will "legislate sin," including abortion and gay marriage.

Harris made the comments -- which she clarified Saturday -- in the Florida Baptist Witness, the weekly journal of the Florida Baptist State Convention, which interviewed political candidates and asked them about religion and their positions on issues.

Separation of church and state is "a lie we have been told," Harris said in the interview, published Thursday, saying separating religion and politics is "wrong because God is the one who chooses our rulers."

"If you're not electing Christians, then in essence you are going to legislate sin," Harris said.

Her comments drew criticism, including some from fellow Republicans, who called them offensive and not representative of the party.

++++++++++++++ Guess Ms. Harris never read Jefferson's thoughts on establishment of "a Christian state." Interesting that "some fellow Republicans" backed away from her.

It's obvious she hasn't read the US Constitution either..

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Old 08-31-2006, 11:55 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Interesting gamble she's taking....hoping for the support of Christians who believe what she says and hoping there are enough of them to get her elected. Of course, she's in Florida and we all remember the fiasco in the last Presidential election.....
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Interesting gamble she's taking....hoping for the support of Christians who believe what she says and hoping there are enough of them to get her elected. Of course, she's in Florida and we all remember the fiasco in the last Presidential election.....
Yes, the Congressional seat was her gift from the Bush administrattion for helping to steal the election..

I think things have changed in the last two years and the Republicans will not be very happy this November..

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From your lips......
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Don't get me started, I'm something of a lonely spirit here in Redneck central..

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It's obvious she hasn't read the US Constitution either..
um, while i don't subscribe to her views, the fact is, nowhere in the constitution does it maintain that there must be separate of church and state.

if you can quote where it says "separation of church and state", i'll eat my hat.

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um, while i don't subscribe to her views, the fact is, nowhere in the constitution does it maintain that there must be separate of church and state.

if you can quote where it says "separation of church and state", i'll eat my hat.
Is this a trick question? Of course the Constitution does not use those specific words but the First Ammendment states:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

The separation is derived from a letter written by Thomas Jefferson to a group called the Danbury Baptists. In that letter, he quotes the First Amendment and writes: "I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, thus building a wall of separation between Church and State." Letter to Danbury Baptists (1802)

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Don't get me started, I'm something of a lonely spirit here in Redneck central..
Hardly Zinky.

This woman is dangerous, even Republicans should be able to see that!
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Hardly Zinky.

This woman is dangerous, even Republicans should be able to see that!
One can always hope C2..

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