NK Nuke test.

Scrat · 10-08-2006, 11:26 PM

So what are we going to do now?

SEOUL, South Korea (CNN) -- North Korea on Monday claimed it has performed a successful nuclear test, according to that country's official Korean Central News Agency (KCNA).

South Korean government officials also said North Korea performed its first nuclear test, the South's Yonhap news agency reported.

The apparent nuclear test was conducted at 10:36 a.m. (0136 GMT) in Hwaderi near Kilju city, Yonhap reported, citing defense officials.

"The field of scientific research in the DPRK (North Korea's official name) successfully conducted an underground nuclear test under secure conditions on October 9 ... at a stirring time when all the people of the country are making a great leap forward in the building of a great prosperous powerful socialist nation," KCNA reported.

Late Sunday in Washington, a U.S. military official told CNN that "something clearly has happened," but the Pentagon was working to fully confirm the report.

Senior U.S. officials said they also believed the test took place, citing seismic data that appeared to show one.

"The nuclear test was conducted with indigenous wisdom and technology 100 percent. It marks a historic event as it greatly encouraged and pleased the KPA (Korean People's Army) and people that have wished to have powerful self-reliant defense capability," KCNA reported.

"It will contribute to defending the peace and stability on the Korean Peninsula and in the area around it."

The U.S. Geological Survey's Rafael Abreau said the earthquake-measuring agency has not recorded any seismic activity from North Korea.

However, South Korean intelligence officials said a seismic wave of magnitude-3.58 had been detected in North Hamkyung province, according to Yonhap.

In Tokyo, the prime minister's office said Japan had set up a task force to address the situation.

High-level South Korean officials were meeting Monday after intelligence of the suspected test was received.

"President Roh Moo-hyun called in an emergency meeting of related ministers on Monday to discuss the North Korean nuclear issue," said Yonhap, quoting Foreign Ministry spokesman Choo Kyu-ho.

"The meeting comes as there has been a grave change in the situation involving the North's nuclear activity."

According to KCNA, there was no radioactive leakage from the site.

On Friday, the U.N. Security Council warned North Korea against performing a nuclear test, citing unspecified action if it should do so.

It also called on North Korea to return immediately to the six-party talks with China, Japan, South Korea, Russia and the United States.

'Serious provocation'
Citing American belligerence and pressure, North Korea said Tuesday that a nuclear test was in the works. A date and time for the test was not given.

The report of the test came as Japan's new Prime Minister Shinzo Abe arrived in Seoul for meetings with President Roh Moo-hyun to address the nuclear issue as well as address strains in relations between the two countries over territorial and historical disputes.

North Korea accused rival South Korea on Monday of committing a serious provocation by firing warning shots during a weekend incident in which the South says soldiers from the communist North crossed over their border.

The border shooting came Saturday. South Korean soldiers rattled off about 40 warning shots after a group of five North Korean troops crossed into the southern side of the no-man's-land separating the divided Korean peninsula, South Korea said.

No one was hurt in the incident.

On Monday, members of the U.N. Security Council are expected to select South Korean Foreign Minister Ban Ki-moon to succeed Kofi Annan as secretary-general of the world body.

In a straw poll last Monday, all but one of the 15 council members supported that choice, according to Chinese Ambassador Wang Guangya.

John Bolton, U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, refused to discuss the outcome of the vote, but said: "I think it was sufficiently clear that all members of the council agreed to move to a formal vote on Monday night," he said. The announcement would be made Tuesday, he said.

Scrat · 10-08-2006, 11:38 PM

I think this settles it.

Earthquake from Hawaii center.

4.2

# Date-Time Monday, October 9, 2006 at 01:35:27 (UTC)
= Coordinated Universal Time
# Monday, October 9, 2006 at 10:35:27 AM
= local time at epicenter
Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones
Location 41.311°N, 129.114°E
Depth 0 km (~0 mile) set by location program
Region NORTH KOREA
Distances 70 km (45 miles) N of Kimchaek, North Korea
90 km (55 miles) SW of Chongjin, North Korea
180 km (110 miles) S of Yanji, Jilin, China
385 km (240 miles) NE of PYONGYANG, North Korea

Rapunzel · 10-09-2006, 01:52 AM

OMG! So now South Korea will work towards nuclear power, and where after that?

We already have enough nuclear weapons to blow up our planet eight times over! When will these fools finally blow us all to Kingdom come? When we can blow ourselves up ten times over? Why does every country feel the need to "protect" itself when an escalation in hostilities will annihilate us all - and no one will be "protected"!

Katy1 · 10-09-2006, 06:29 AM

My reaction?

Oh ****.

zinkyusa · 10-09-2006, 06:32 AM

This just confirms what has long been suspected. I don't think it changes much..

Carl44 · 10-09-2006, 06:34 AM

i don't want to provoke an argument here but why is this worse than say israel, Iran or even France having nukes

no honestly they all scare me

Bill Sikes · 10-09-2006, 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrat

So what are we going to do now?

Nothing, hopefully.

zinkyusa · 10-09-2006, 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbo

i don't want to provoke an argument here but why is this worse than say israel, Iran or even France having nukes

no honestly they all scare me

In many ways it's no different, they can't ever use them unless they want to comit national suicide..The big fear is that they may provide one to a terrorist group.

Scrat · 10-09-2006, 07:35 AM

I don't think it will change much in the immediate future. As for nukes in general the Genie was let out of the bottle 60+ years ago, we just have to live with the fact that they are there.

It is meant for defensive purposes so far and considering the hostile nature of the American agenda they have a reason for it.

zinkyusa · 10-09-2006, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrat

I don't think it will change much in the immediate future. As for nukes in general the Genie was let out of the bottle 60+ years ago, we just have to live with the fact that they are there.

It is meant for defensive purposes so far and considering the hostile nature of the American agenda they have a reason for it.

and how does it help them in dealing with America?

10-08-2006, 11:26 PM	#1 (permalink)
Scrat Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,785	NK Nuke test. So what are we going to do now? SEOUL, South Korea (CNN) -- North Korea on Monday claimed it has performed a successful nuclear test, according to that country's official Korean Central News Agency (KCNA). South Korean government officials also said North Korea performed its first nuclear test, the South's Yonhap news agency reported. The apparent nuclear test was conducted at 10:36 a.m. (0136 GMT) in Hwaderi near Kilju city, Yonhap reported, citing defense officials. "The field of scientific research in the DPRK (North Korea's official name) successfully conducted an underground nuclear test under secure conditions on October 9 ... at a stirring time when all the people of the country are making a great leap forward in the building of a great prosperous powerful socialist nation," KCNA reported. Late Sunday in Washington, a U.S. military official told CNN that "something clearly has happened," but the Pentagon was working to fully confirm the report. Senior U.S. officials said they also believed the test took place, citing seismic data that appeared to show one. "The nuclear test was conducted with indigenous wisdom and technology 100 percent. It marks a historic event as it greatly encouraged and pleased the KPA (Korean People's Army) and people that have wished to have powerful self-reliant defense capability," KCNA reported. "It will contribute to defending the peace and stability on the Korean Peninsula and in the area around it." The U.S. Geological Survey's Rafael Abreau said the earthquake-measuring agency has not recorded any seismic activity from North Korea. However, South Korean intelligence officials said a seismic wave of magnitude-3.58 had been detected in North Hamkyung province, according to Yonhap. In Tokyo, the prime minister's office said Japan had set up a task force to address the situation. High-level South Korean officials were meeting Monday after intelligence of the suspected test was received. "President Roh Moo-hyun called in an emergency meeting of related ministers on Monday to discuss the North Korean nuclear issue," said Yonhap, quoting Foreign Ministry spokesman Choo Kyu-ho. "The meeting comes as there has been a grave change in the situation involving the North's nuclear activity." According to KCNA, there was no radioactive leakage from the site. On Friday, the U.N. Security Council warned North Korea against performing a nuclear test, citing unspecified action if it should do so. It also called on North Korea to return immediately to the six-party talks with China, Japan, South Korea, Russia and the United States. 'Serious provocation' Citing American belligerence and pressure, North Korea said Tuesday that a nuclear test was in the works. A date and time for the test was not given. The report of the test came as Japan's new Prime Minister Shinzo Abe arrived in Seoul for meetings with President Roh Moo-hyun to address the nuclear issue as well as address strains in relations between the two countries over territorial and historical disputes. North Korea accused rival South Korea on Monday of committing a serious provocation by firing warning shots during a weekend incident in which the South says soldiers from the communist North crossed over their border. The border shooting came Saturday. South Korean soldiers rattled off about 40 warning shots after a group of five North Korean troops crossed into the southern side of the no-man's-land separating the divided Korean peninsula, South Korea said. No one was hurt in the incident. On Monday, members of the U.N. Security Council are expected to select South Korean Foreign Minister Ban Ki-moon to succeed Kofi Annan as secretary-general of the world body. In a straw poll last Monday, all but one of the 15 council members supported that choice, according to Chinese Ambassador Wang Guangya. John Bolton, U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, refused to discuss the outcome of the vote, but said: "I think it was sufficiently clear that all members of the council agreed to move to a formal vote on Monday night," he said. The announcement would be made Tuesday, he said. __________________ Ya gotta watch your nuts because somebody is always trying to rip them off. Politicians are like baby diapers. Sooner rather than later they have to be changed for the same reason.
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10-08-2006, 11:38 PM	#2 (permalink)
Scrat Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,785	Re: NK Nuke test. I think this settles it. Earthquake from Hawaii center. 4.2 # Date-Time Monday, October 9, 2006 at 01:35:27 (UTC) = Coordinated Universal Time # Monday, October 9, 2006 at 10:35:27 AM = local time at epicenter Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones Location 41.311°N, 129.114°E Depth 0 km (~0 mile) set by location program Region NORTH KOREA Distances 70 km (45 miles) N of Kimchaek, North Korea 90 km (55 miles) SW of Chongjin, North Korea 180 km (110 miles) S of Yanji, Jilin, China 385 km (240 miles) NE of PYONGYANG, North Korea __________________ Ya gotta watch your nuts because somebody is always trying to rip them off. Politicians are like baby diapers. Sooner rather than later they have to be changed for the same reason.
Local Time: 11:58 AM Local Date: 11-21-2009

10-09-2006, 01:52 AM	#3 (permalink)
Rapunzel Black sheep again! Supporting Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 5,558	Re: NK Nuke test. OMG! So now South Korea will work towards nuclear power, and where after that? We already have enough nuclear weapons to blow up our planet eight times over! When will these fools finally blow us all to Kingdom come? When we can blow ourselves up ten times over? Why does every country feel the need to "protect" itself when an escalation in hostilities will annihilate us all - and no one will be "protected"! __________________
Local Time: 07:58 PM Local Date: 11-21-2009

10-09-2006, 06:29 AM	#4 (permalink)
Katy1 I have a cunning plan.... Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Bristol, think right from Wales and a bit above Glastonbury. Posts: 345	Re: NK Nuke test. My reaction? Oh ****. __________________
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10-09-2006, 06:32 AM	#5 (permalink)
zinkyusa gangsta' Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: suckin' peoples blood Posts: 3,280	Re: NK Nuke test. This just confirms what has long been suspected. I don't think it changes much.. __________________ You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted, then used against you.
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10-09-2006, 06:34 AM	#6 (permalink)
Carl44 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 10,816	Re: NK Nuke test. i don't want to provoke an argument here but why is this worse than say israel, Iran or even France having nukes no honestly they all scare me
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10-09-2006, 07:35 AM	#9 (permalink)
Scrat Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,785	Re: NK Nuke test. I don't think it will change much in the immediate future. As for nukes in general the Genie was let out of the bottle 60+ years ago, we just have to live with the fact that they are there. It is meant for defensive purposes so far and considering the hostile nature of the American agenda they have a reason for it. __________________ Ya gotta watch your nuts because somebody is always trying to rip them off. Politicians are like baby diapers. Sooner rather than later they have to be changed for the same reason.
Local Time: 11:58 AM Local Date: 11-21-2009

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