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    Yet another avoidable killing by armed police

    You'll remember that we blasted several holes into the skull of a completely oblivious, innocent and unarmed Brazilian, Jean Charles de Menezes, a while ago on the London Underground, having carefully avoided interacting with him in safer environments from the moment he left his apartment?

    We now have Ann Sanderson, deliberately shot dead by armed police. She was, it would appear, firing ball bearings at CCTV cameras in the centre of Sevenoaks after midnight. Refusing to obey the command of an armed response unit - not that people always get that much warning - might be considered suicide. On the other hand, using a police firearm to end this open-air dispute might be considered predictable overkill.

    One day one of these goons in uniform might get a day's pay stopped as a token of official disapproval, and pigs will fly. An ideal society wouldn't be governed by state-employed terrorists.
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    Re: Yet another avoidable killing by armed police

    It's a very bad job indeed. The IPCC are on the job, but that's only after the event, so not very helpful.

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    Re: Yet another avoidable killing by armed police

    She should have put the gun down , how were the police to know it was not a lethal weapon , while we are on about it , on the same day a policeman was stabbed to death just doing his duty



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    Re: Yet another avoidable killing by armed police

    It could have been a table leg in a carrier bag for all the police care, it has been in the past after all. Or should we rename the armed response units Euthenasia Squads if they're prepared to automatically dispatch the suicidally-minded on request?

    The English police have never once, to my knowledge, shot any woman with good cause. You'd think they'd stop doing it. You'd like some examples?

    Members of the West Midlands police put six bullets into Gail Kinchin who was 16, pregnant at the time and merely in the wrong place at the wrong moment. She died but nobody lost a day's pay for it.

    Cherry Groce was paralyzed when her house was raided in Brixton and she was "shot in the confusion". Nobody involved had a gun except the police who shot her. They were looking for her son at the time. He wasn't home. "Inspector Lovelock was cleared of all criminal charges and reinstated".

    More?

    Jane Lee was "deliberately shot three times by police investigating reports of an armed woman seen driving a car" in Essex, but she survived. Have a guess whether any of the officers involved were held accountable.

    What's the common factor here, "she should have put the gun down" or "nobody will penalize us however carelessly we behave, so we might just as well shoot"?
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    Re: Yet another avoidable killing by armed police

    What these cases all have in common is the presence of trigger-happy idiots none of whom should have been armed with anything more lethal than a water-pistol.

    Then there is a Police Complaints Commission which seems to exist solely to rubber-stamp the actions of the police.
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    Re: Yet another avoidable killing by armed police

    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Fester View Post
    She should have put the gun down , how were the police to know it was not a lethal weapon , while we are on about it , on the same day a policeman was stabbed to death just doing his duty
    That might possibly wash if she was just waiving it about but if she was taking pot shots with it then it would be immediately obvious to any *trained* firearms officer.

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    Re: Metropolitan Police Tube Shooting Inquest

    He was a guy just catching the tube, of course he was shot illegally!

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    Re: Metropolitan Police Tube Shooting Inquest

    Whole thing stinks and they should have the book thrown at them for being trigger happy.

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    Re: Metropolitan Police Tube Shooting Inquest

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    Clearly it was an unlawful killing but culpability depends what the armed police on the scene were actually told at the time. Bear in mind what had happened not long before, if they thought he was actually a suicide bomber the last thing they are going to do is warn him he has been found out and give him the few seconds needed to blow himself up. I think he fault lies not with the police on the scene but whoever was in direct charge at the time.

    Let me put it this way, if a suicide bomber gets on the train you are on and the police are following would you be happy if they hesitate and you get killed as a consequence.

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