Hillary Cries on TV. Could she really handle the job/

[RedGlitter]

Originally Posted by rjwould

Where did I use the word "disgrace"? I said "disappointment" and "embarrassment".

You have yet to describe anything that your interested in. The only thing you ladies have done is insult another woman for staying with her husband.

Disgrace was my word. I chose to use that.

I don't think you're understanding, RJ. Is that all you're reading into our replies? Why is that? We ladies haven't insulted Hillary at all. We have judged her character which is what hopefully everyone does with a presidential candidate. Bill lost his integrity when he got blown by someone other than his wife. Don't think we're not faulting him as well. And don't think his character isn't our business. A self respecting woman with an ounce of backbone would have nailed his sorry butt and gotten rid of him. Hillary chose to stay with a repeat infidel. No integrity there, no class, no self respect. How could I possibly vote in someone like that for president?!
I accept that you like Hillary but you'll have to accept a lot of people don't.

[changinglanes]

I accept that you like Hillary but you'll have to accept a lot of people don't.

That is just part of life. Not everyone likes everyone and we must respect everyone's opinion even if we disagree. I have a saying I tell my daughter when we don't see eye to eye. "Let's just agree to disagree and leave it at that."

[changinglanes]

To be honest I don't like any of the front runners.

[suzycreamcheese]

Originally Posted by RedGlitter

hink we're not faulting him as well. And don't think his character isn't our business. A self respecting woman with an ounce of backbone would have nailed his sorry butt and gotten rid of him..

err she might have still loved him? She might have wanted to see through her marriage vows for better for worse? She might have wanted to try and work it out?


Since when is chucking in a marriage at the first opportunity seen as a good thing????

[RedGlitter]

Originally Posted by suzycreamcheese

err she might have still loved him? She might have wanted to see through her marriage vows for better for worse? She might have wanted to try and work it out?

Work what out? The marriage was over the first time he stepped out. I don't care for her personally how she chose to handle it but as a potential presidential candidate she does not have my respect and that means I won't vote for her.


Since when is chucking in a marriage at the first opportunity seen as a good thing????

When self respect is an issue.

Originally Posted by rjwould

Then judge character based on history relevant to the job and ones entire life. You or me or nobody else knows why she stayed with her husband, Everything I have heard is hearsay and conjecture. She chose to stay and so do a lot of other people. It sounds like a bit of projecting to me from some.

I couldn't care less who does not like Hillary--this is not a pageant.

So, if you were to hire a female and after a couple of weeks, you and her go out for coffee and she confides in you that she decided to stay with her husband after he cheated on her, you would fire her? Or at least you would be sorry you hired her even though she was the best person for the job?

Seems kinda silly when it is put like that, doesn't it?

No, it seems like apples and oranges RJ. I will judge Hillary based on anything I choose to and I choose to judge her character and integrity as a woman. As for your example, no I wouldn't fire the employee for staying with a lout. But I sure wouldn't vote for her as my president either!

ChangingLanes...good advice.

[suzycreamcheese]

it doesnt mean she doesnt have self respect though.
You might have that as your personal boundary, and so do a lot of people, but there is more to love than that.
The fact she tried to work at her marriage before giving up can only be seen as a positive thing surely. Otherwise what on earth is the point of marriage at all?

[RedGlitter]

SCC, he broke the marriage. Surely there's nothing respectable in allowing oneself to be repeatedly subjected to that. Before the Oval Office he had screwed around with others. She knew and she still stayed. That cost her my respect. I'm pretty firm on this so I'll just leave it there. We're all doing a lot of agreeing to disagree these days.

[changinglanes]

1. Her personal life should not effect her professional life. Seperate enitities.

2. Can she really do the job?

3. Is America really ready or even want a woman for prez in these days and times?

4. why is this such a big deal when everything is still up in the air right now.

[RedGlitter]

Originally Posted by changinglanes

1. Her personal life should not effect her professional life. Seperate enitities.

I disagree. Here's why. If I am a whore or a thief in my personal life, is that still a separate entity or does it bespeak my character? If I cheat on my husband how can I be loyal to my country when I couldn't even be loyal to him?

2. Can she really do the job?

I do not think she is capable of it. I haven't seen anything that says otherwise. That's my feeling.

3. Is America really ready or even want a woman for prez in these days and times?

America is past ready for a woman president. But let's get one who can do the job and not settle for just what we can get.

4. why is this such a big deal when everything is still up in the air right now.

I'm not sure how you mean. It's just conversation.

[RedGlitter]

Originally Posted by rjwould

So, her record on civil rights, womens issues, animal issues, education, equal employment, corporate greed, workplace safety and so on means nothing to you because she stayed with her husband? You're right, Red, it is apples to oranges.

No. it means I am not impressed with her record on any of those issues. RJ.
I understand you are fond of her so you want to defend her but I am saying the woman does not impress me and in my eyes is absolutely not presidential material.