Copenhagen Climate Treaty - Screw the West

[Clodhopper]

Face it, these 'developing nations' are now responsible for much faster emissions growth than the U.S.

Growth, yes. But the US produces a far, far greater total amount, and it is the total amount of emissions that has to be cut. And cut fast. We have less than 90 months to sort it or the results will be catastophic, involving (amongst other things) loss of food growing land and mass migrations. The death toll will be in the billions.

Agreed that no-one knows for sure what the effects will be - it is possible that climate change will lead to an ice age, but the scientific consensus is that the most likely result is a 3-5 degree Celsius average warming of the climate.

Either result is a horror beyond my ability to express it.

[globalwarmingdebunked]

Global warming is a political myth. More and more scientist world wide are proving this, but people had rather listen to politicians with ulterior motives.

The Copenhagen Treaty would leash the US to an unelected government who would control our economy. Wake up and smell the coffee. This would mean a complete economic crash here in the states. I am all for good stewardship of the earth, as it is our home, but we do not need to bind the US to something we can not get out of & will cost us billions. In case you have not noticed, we are already in a recession.

Keep the UN out of our business & economic development. We already send millions over seas, when we have homeless & starving families here!!!! Keep closing manufacturing plants here, and America the Great will be HISTORY. Our economy is tanking now, if we sign the Copenhagen Agreement, we will be a destitute 3rd world country ourselves!

[globalwarmingdebunked]

P.S. Just in case you have not been listening to the news for say....the last year, we are already in debt to China. I believe they are quiet developed and no longer "a developing country". The United Arab Emirates already shaft us big time on oil prices b/c we are too blinded by the myth of Global Warming to use new technology, which is environmentally friendly, to drill for OUR OWN OIL!

And the bull about Carbon Dioxide emissions killing the world. Did any of you take a science class since photosynthesis was discovered? Plants use carbon dioxide as food to grow and produce and give off oxygen, which humans use. Amazing concept.

[gmc]

Originally Posted by globalwarmingdebunked

P.S. Just in case you have not been listening to the news for say....the last year, we are already in debt to China. I believe they are quiet developed and no longer "a developing country". The United Arab Emirates already shaft us big time on oil prices b/c we are too blinded by the myth of Global Warming to use new technology, which is environmentally friendly, to drill for OUR OWN OIL!

And the bull about Carbon Dioxide emissions killing the world. Did any of you take a science class since photosynthesis was discovered? Plants use carbon dioxide as food to grow and produce and give off oxygen, which humans use. Amazing concept.

Did any of you take a science class since photosynthesis was discovered? Plants use carbon dioxide as food to grow and produce and give off oxygen, which humans use. Amazing concept.

It's not the UN or some ludicrous socialist conspiracy that put you in debt to china or allows you to be shafted on oil prices that's your own fault and no one else's. Mybe if you built more economical cars you might not be so worried about the price of oil. It's a finite resource whether you choose to believe it or not.

Did any of you take a science class since photosynthesis was discovered? Plants use carbon dioxide as food to grow and produce and give off oxygen, which humans use. Amazing concept.

Maybe you should do some reading up in deforestation and the use of fossil fuels before you come out with comments like that. But hey don't bother you woild probably think it all nonsense anyway.

Why don't you just stop trading with the rest of the world if you are so convinced everybody is trying to wreck your economy. Be self sufficient don't import anything including oil and see how you get on without the rest of the world. You could maybe trade with the south american countries but they would be in a far stronger position economically than you so that should be interesting. It would be good for the rest of the world, commodity prices would fall with the decrease in demand, oil prices would fall and the stranglehold the middle east has on the world economy would be loosened. We'd very soon find new trade links with china russia and the EU economies benefiting. Without the American dominated world bank we might get some sensible policies in africa that mean they can feed their own people instead of growing cash crops to pay back the interest on loans they should perhaps never have been given. You'd have to find somewhere for your military though and maybe think about downsizing-with no strategic interests abroad what do you need them for and no one is going to have any reason to invade you are they? Maybe just keep the nuclear weapons in case iran attacks

Just don't come bleating for a handout when your economy goes down the toilet and you're all starving when you're genetically modified crops fail big time and it finally dawns on you that maybe environmentalists had a point after all.

Yeah that would be fine-an isolationist America refusing to trade with anyone and you would have no one to blame but yourselves-go for it.

[Bryn Mawr]

Originally Posted by globalwarmingdebunked

Global warming is a political myth. More and more scientist world wide are proving this, but people had rather listen to politicians with ulterior motives.

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Any evidence to back this up - Peer Reviewed papers or the like, not polemics by transistor designers in right wing websites.

The vast majority of "scientists" in fields related to the subject are adamant that global warming is a proven phenomenon.