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    The Savile saga reaches a new all time low..

    A former BBC colleague of Jimmy Savile has claimed the predatory paedophile was a necrophiliac.

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    Re: The Savile saga reaches a new all time low..

    I watched the BBC Panorama investigation into itself last night.

    What I got from the program wasn't so much about whether Savile was a paedophile or not, but about how people behave in groups.
    Many people ought to have become aware, over many years, of this fellows behaviour.
    He was toward the top of his fame and profession, a major money earner, a draw for audiences, his behaviour seems to have been an open secret.
    All the 'names' that professed to have known about him way back then, but were afraid or thought it might affect their own careers, must be out numbered tenfold by his close Team who definitely knew.

    This group behaviour might explain the Banking crisis, endemic racism in the Met, Priest sex scandals.
    Do groups overlook their members indiscretions ?
    I thought I knew more than this until I opened my mouth

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    Re: The Savile saga reaches a new all time low..

    Quote Originally Posted by Bruv View Post
    I watched the BBC Panorama investigation into itself last night.

    What I got from the program wasn't so much about whether Savile was a paedophile or not, but about how people behave in groups.
    Many people ought to have become aware, over many years, of this fellows behaviour.
    He was toward the top of his fame and profession, a major money earner, a draw for audiences, his behaviour seems to have been an open secret.
    All the 'names' that professed to have known about him way back then, but were afraid or thought it might affect their own careers, must be out numbered tenfold by his close Team who definitely knew.

    This group behaviour might explain the Banking crisis, endemic racism in the Met, Priest sex scandals.
    Do groups overlook their members indiscretions ?
    It's a very Interesting point....

    I totally agree with you. Where there Is power or money, groups of people can witness the most appalling behaviour but will stay with the herd out of fear they will lose their job, or social standing.

    Savile earned the BBC millions In his hey day as well as giving huge amounts of money to charity. He had a lot of power In the BBC back then and ' anyone ' who would have been seen to stand up to him or expose him could lose their job and be outcast from the Organisation.

    It's difficult for some to understand how his activities could have gone undetected or unexposed. The victims always believe at the time that they are the only one It is happening to and because the abuser Is a National star, they thought no-one would believe them If they spoke out. It stands to reason... who would be believed ? A National treasure who devoted his latter life to charity or a child ? Staff at the BBC who had their suspicions would have no doubt be ridiculed If they tried to expose him on their own.
    It's only when a few start coming forward that all the others feel safety In numbers and reveal what they knew also. That's also what buys the abuser silence.... not wanting to be the maverick In exposing someone .... I'm sure Savile would have dragged them through the courts In lawsuits had they of tried which also stopped those In the know from exposing him.
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    Re: The Savile saga reaches a new all time low..

    Don't forget the culture of the time. Even now you get people who will say child abuse as such just didn't happen in the good old days when family values were much stronger. We also have the obscene sight of the church lecturing us all on the decline of moral values while covering up systematic abuse within it's own organisation even managing to blame evil children for leading priests astray. It's all coming out now because there is not the same stigma attached to being a victim.

    Father Benedict Groeschel, American Friar, Claims Teens Seduce Priests In Some Sex Abuse Cases

    In rochdale we had the complaints of children basically ignored because the authorities thought the children were the type who sought attention or were making their own decisions at ten years old. Every time our politicians harp on about the children of single parents they are basically reinforcing the same stereotype - that some children are low lives who should not be taken seriously. Paedophiles are intelligent - they target their victims very carefully picking on those they can terrify into silence or will not be believed.

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    Re: The Savile saga reaches a new all time low..

    Quote Originally Posted by gmc View Post
    Don't forget the culture of the time.
    The culture of the time ?
    I think that is my point, the culture hasn't changed that much.
    The recent Asian sex scandal as an example, many people must have known, but thought it not worth putting their head above the parapet.
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    Re: The Savile saga reaches a new all time low..

    Quote Originally Posted by Bruv View Post
    The culture of the time ?
    I think that is my point, the culture hasn't changed that much.
    The recent Asian sex scandal as an example, many people must have known, but thought it not worth putting their head above the parapet.
    Two men did speak out years ago... Nick Griffin and Mark Collette.... OK forget who they are and what they represent just for a moment... they too were ridiculed and branded racist. Their Information came from families of young girls who turned to them for help after Social services and the Police branded them as liars. I wrote about this subject on this forum 2 years ago and I was also called a liar by a member here. The energy was channeled Into arresting Griffin and Collette with Inciting racial hatred, both were found not guilty by trial by Jury. When the first big Asian grooming gang appeared In court about a year and a half ago, finally, a senior police spokesman came out and admitted that police and SS's had been aware of the accusations for 10 years or more and nothing was done for fear of causing racial unrest In the North of England.
    Now... like the Savile case... more and more victims are coming forward along with more and more police and social workers now happy to admit they had know something all along and that, Is the scandal.
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    Re: The Savile saga reaches a new all time low..

    Quote Originally Posted by Bruv View Post
    The culture of the time ?
    I think that is my point, the culture hasn't changed that much.
    The recent Asian sex scandal as an example, many people must have known, but thought it not worth putting their head above the parapet.
    So what is the recent asian sex scandal?
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    Re: The Savile saga reaches a new all time low..

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    So what is the recent asian sex scandal?


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    Re: The Savile saga reaches a new all time low..

    Throw in bestiality and incest and they'll have a full set!

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    Throw in bestiality and incest and they'll have a full set!
    Incest maybe... allegedly one of his nieces has gone to the police claiming he molested her as a child.
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