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    The apparent legality of harassment

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    Ivanka and Jared at JFK T5, flying commercial. My husband chasing them down to harass them. #banalityofevil
    The story can be found at JetBlue Ejects Passengers After Encounter with Ivanka Trump : snopes.com

    The men involved are Matthew Lasner and Dan Goldstein and what completely baffles me is that no charges have been brought against either of them. Their target was traveling on a scheduled flight with three children. What happened has nothing to do with an expression of free speech, it was a pre-planned violent verbal assault.
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    Re: The apparent legality of harassment

    Quote Originally Posted by spot View Post
    The thread is prompted by a tweet:
    Ivanka and Jared at JFK T5, flying commercial. My husband chasing them down to harass them. #banalityofevil
    The story can be found at JetBlue Ejects Passengers After Encounter with Ivanka Trump : snopes.com

    The men involved are Matthew Lasner and Dan Goldstein and what completely baffles me is that no charges have been brought against either of them. Their target was traveling on a scheduled flight with three children. What happened has nothing to do with an expression of free speech, it was a pre-planned violent verbal assault.
    Nobody gives a chit about violent verbal assault,whatever that is.

    It was shameful and the f'ers who did that by now seem to realize it backfired at whatever they hoped to accomplish.

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    Re: The apparent legality of harassment

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    Nobody gives a chit about violent verbal assault,whatever that is.
    Intimidation by aggressive shouting. It's not a thing civilized people do.
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    Re: The apparent legality of harassment

    Quote Originally Posted by spot View Post
    Intimidation by aggressive shouting. It's not a thing civilized people do.
    Yup, uncivilized people can be a pain.

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    Re: The apparent legality of harassment

    Man says "my husband"....... first time ive seen that phrase used.
    And the expression "deplane"..... wtf?

    Wouldnt worry though Spot. If its punishment you want, once Trump is actually president those two will never work again. (Watch this space)

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    Re: The apparent legality of harassment

    When that happened, those people thought they were cool or something, and posted their "attack" on Facebook.
    I don't care what people think of Mr Trump and his election to the office, but being rude to his family is uncalled for. Those people are idiots.
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    Re: The apparent legality of harassment

    To quote Wikipedia regarding Scottish law as an example,
    The Scottish law definition of a breach of the peace is "conduct severe enough to cause alarm to ordinary people and threaten serious disturbance to the community."

    [...] To prove a Breach of the Peace the most important thing to prove is that someone was Alarmed, Annoyed or Disturbed by the incident [...] The maximum punishment if a case is remitted to the High Court remains imprisonment for life although such severe punishment is now rarely applied.
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    Re: The apparent legality of harassment

    The definition of a "hate crime" here is “a criminal offense against a person or property motivated in whole or in part by an offender's bias against a race, religion, disability, sexual orientation, ethnicity, gender, or gender identity.”

    No mention of political affiliation so it may not match the criteria for it to quite literally become a Federal case. The onus may be on Ivanka to press charges if she so desires but I suspect she's already put it behind her.

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    Re: The apparent legality of harassment

    If it doesn't qualify as an assault in America then American law is defective.

    Besides, I'd have thought being related to the current President-elect qualifies as a disability any day of the week.

    Perhaps Hunter College has a contractual clause about bringing the institution into disrepute.
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    Re: The apparent legality of harassment

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    Quote Originally Posted by spot View Post
    If it doesn't qualify as an assault in America then American law is defective.

    Besides, I'd have thought being related to the current President-elect qualifies as a disability any day of the week.

    Perhaps Hunter College has a contractual clause about bringing the institution into disrepute.
    Hence why i said he'd never work again.

    Although i agree its uncivilised Ivanka isnt just an innocent daughter. She was part of his election team and he's trying to make her part of his government. So........

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