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    My theory, which is mine, is that the flats were all well protected against fire spreading from one to another within the building or from the stairwell. My theory is that if you have an intense inferno up the wall outside a flat, and the flat's windows explode with the heat on the outdoor surfaces, then the fire gets in through a route it ought not to have had available to it. I also reckon that a lot of the flats will have had their windows ajar through the night on account of getting a bit of a breeze during the hot summer, but that last bit is just surmising.
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    Almost riots in the streets

    Grenfell Tower residents storm Kensington Town Hall in angry protest over deadly fire | The Independent

    I think corbyn has given life to the language of protest and the reminder that people choose the government rather than just take all the crap. I suspect the blairites are looking for their dtones to crawl back under.

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    This is nothing to do with Corbyn or any other politician. This is off the streets. The lack of co-ordination of the volunteers got no back up from anyone official at the Council. The Council look as though they are using this to get the people out of their borough. This is really socially and politically explosive at present.

    (Yes, the SWP turned up with ready made placards, but they always do. Means nothing in terms of this being organised by political forces with axes to grind. This was from the gut)

    Oh, it seems the cladding was £2 a block cheaper - £5000 for the tower - than the flame resistant stuff. The protests are about the attitude of the authorities. it's about being a 2nd class citizen and more and more people who used to feel they had a stake in the status quo no longer do. In London that's a lot of issues and varies from person to person. For me it's brexit. For anyone in a social housing tower block it's about being safe to sleep.
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    I honestly think the anger is natural but.......in such events realistically.....who is supposed to coordinate things ?
    Is there an appointed official for such emergencies ?
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    The leader of the Council was happy to blame residents of the tower for the lack of sprinklers, but where was he when something needed to be done? Why wasn't he on the phone rousing people out or at the least being there himself? If May is culpable for not being there, he is many times more culpable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clodhopper View Post
    This is nothing to do with Corbyn or any other politician. This is off the streets. The lack of co-ordination of the volunteers got no back up from anyone official at the Council. The Council look as though they are using this to get the people out of their borough. This is really socially and politically explosive at present.

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    Oh, it seems the cladding was £2 a block cheaper - £5000 for the tower - than the flame resistant stuff. The protests are about the attitude of the authorities. it's about being a 2nd class citizen and more and more people who used to feel they had a stake in the status quo no longer do. In London that's a lot of issues and varies from person to person. For me it's brexit. For anyone in a social housing tower block it's about being safe to sleep.
    I didn't say it had anything to do with with corbyn what I said was I said he has helped give life back to the language of protest and reminded people that they can actually choose what kind of government and society we have to live in. Since blair the langiage of politics had become a kind of bland corporate newspeak with professional politicians forgetting who is in charge.

    I'm not particularly a corbyn supporter but when was the last time you saw a politician drawing crowds to hear him speak? Be interesting how it all pans out.

    Boris might be in trouble as well.

    https://www.indy100.com/article/bori...ervice-7790971

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    It is the Daily Mail but if half of it is near the truth.....oh dear.
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    I'm gobsmacked. I'm saddened. And watching the inferno on telly I was stunned. How does that happen in London??????
    In all my time in the fire services and even as a child I was taught you had the best fire brigades the best firemen and women. That your official laws and standards of building codes were among the best and we copied you guys. When I was watching it I asked " where the hell is that happening?" when mum said London I didn't believe her and thought she had it wrong.
    what a horrible inquest to be involved in. It will take months if not years for this to be gotten through. I don't envy the investigators.

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