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    Bad vibration

    I have a vibration problem.

    It's been going on for almost 3 years now and is costing me sleep by the ...gallon? ...ton? ...sheepload? Almost no-one else is affected at all, but at its worst I was getting no sleep or less than 4 hours every night and is a large part of why I wasn't posting here at all. Too zonked to even think of it.

    I've had Environmental Health in and they found "nothing they could use". To be fair they are more about constantly barking dogs than mysterious vibrations. The kids they sent round seemed genuinely concerned and did their best but seemed totally flummoxed. Their end advice was to get my hearing tested and be checked for tinnitus since there is also a deep booming noise associated with the vibration which no-one apart from me seems able to hear.

    I did both and had an MRI scan of my brain which was about having a minor cancer removed along with my right saliva gland but useful in this case as well because it could be used to check I didn't have a tumour that might have caused auditory hallucinations. All fine.

    Since February this year it got 50% better and I've been getting 4-6 hours sleep regularly, which is enough to function on. I took my house off the market although I am regularly wandering the streets at 4 am trying to find the remaining cause (I believe there were 2 or 3 things which began around the same time). All but 1 I think I have identified and have stopped so it's nothing like as bad as it has been. I also began posting here again.

    Or it wasn't as bad.... The last couple of days the vibration has - to me - become more intense. It could be coming from the neighbour with the attached wall (he was the cause of most of the problems, I believe) but there's a significant chance it's to do with the blocks of low rise flats just over the road. These flats run 100m along the street and are 4 storeys high. The block at the end of the street, opposite the 4 house terrace I'm part of, has a void ground floor. It's an empty space used for bike storage and such and is open at the front, with just a decorative metal grill instead of brick. It may well be acting as a sound box. I can certainly feel the vibration through my feet all round the area.

    Does anyone know of vibration detection machines I could rent or buy? Or firms that do this sort of work? I've tried the internet, but don't know enough to know what sort of machine or detector I need firstly to prove there IS a vibration at all and second to have a professionally acceptable reading I can wave at officials to prove it.

    Do any of our engineering types have relevant information that might help? I've tried calling acoustic engineers but they are more about making business compliant with noise regs. It seems they COULD come but have no guarantee they could find the cause and it could easily get very expensive for no return. In one case where a whole town was bothered by vibration, the eventual cause was found to be a steelworks 40 miles away and took years to track down. My problem isn't on that scale but the issue is much the same: I could spend a lot of money for nothing.

    I'm stumped. Any ideas?

    edit: I should add I've lived here for nearly 30 years now and only in the last 3 years has there been any problem at all.

    edit: Of the last 6 lodgers, who cover the period, only one could feel and hear it and it only cost him a few hours here and there. He only moved out when I said I had to sell the place.
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    Re: Bad vibration

    I have no suggestions to help unfortunately, I can only offer my sympathies for your situation.
    I have some questions though, sorry if you have been asked before.

    Could it be you are super sensitive to whatever it is ?
    Could it be an undiscovered medical condition ?
    Why was only one of your lodgers affected ? Could he have been suggestible ?
    Have you canvassed your neighbours to ask if they are affected ?
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    Re: Bad vibration

    Could it be you are super sensitive to whatever it is ?
    Yes. That seems likely in fact. It's also possible that I've become more sensitive to vibration through constant exposure - training, in effect. But whatever it is has a cause.

    Could it be an undiscovered medical condition ?
    Possible but unlikely statistically. It doesn't seem to be an already discovered condition either: I've been checked for tinnitus and had a hearing test and an MRI scan. None of them showed anything that would explain it. That's a relief. If it's external I can do something about it. If it's internal that's a lot trickier. And frightening.

    Why was only one of your lodgers affected ? Could he have been suggestible ?
    It takes some suggestion to wake you in the middle of the night on several occasions. Especially when you are a chef in a posh chippie and come in shattered every night. More than that he was convinced it was from next door - he was specific about what he heard and felt and where it was from.

    That's not the most bizarre one, either. Another friend had been (she confessed) saying that while she was sure it was real to me, she wasn't convinced it was real for anyone else. Then one night she was sitting in my kitchen and felt it. She's never felt it on any other occasion. Don't understand that one at all.

    Have you canvassed your neighbours to ask if they are affected ?
    Yes. It was 2 years ago now and I'm considering doing it again. The couple in the downstairs flat at the other end of my terrace of 4 houses said they could, and worse than me (it actually rattled their windows in the frames, they said). They were the only ones. They are also closer to the block of low rise flats with the void space below them I have mentioned.

    In the last 6 months or so on a few occasions other people have heard the booming noise that comes with the vibration - I've seen people stop and look puzzled and people I've been with who haven't been able to feel or hear the vibration at other times have heard it. It appears to be in between my 4 terrace bit and the block of flats. I've wondered if the vibration is causing the void space to resonate and produce the booming noise. There's enough evidence to make me reasonably confident that it isn't a hallucination, it's a real thing other people can perceive. It seems just like any other sense: some have less good eyesight, some have better. In this case I'm cursed with better vibration sense and I'm not the only one. I do seem the worst affected though. I'm actually getting some counselling to help with the side effects which have been pretty devastating if the wider consequences are taken into account. I do wonder if I was totally sane at times. At the worst, for 18 months or 2 years or so, I was getting sleep in minutes for 2 nights, then would pass out for about 4 hours the third, always being woken or kept awake by vibration (edit: in hindsight I do wonder if that was actually physically possible. It's certainly how it felt, though). It has affected me mentally, emotionally and physically.

    I was within a couple of weeks of putting the boards up to sell the place back in February (all paperwork ready, estate agents being talked to, posting on internet one ready to go, house redecorated) when the situation improved a lot. I can't prove it but strong circumstantial evidence suggests my neighbour's computer was producing a lot of vibration at night for some reason (he worked very late a lot). There was a thumping and bumping of furniture one day from him and the problem halved. The other problem or perhaps two problems is that my problems started when he changed his boiler for a bigger one... Unfortunately he can't feel a thing and refuses to accept it could be him. I can't prove it is, even though the symptoms exactly match a boiler with too small a gas intake pipe that I found in internet discussions (vibration and booming that can be heard by the neighbour but not by the owner)

    So it could be the boiler, or it could be the flats. It could even be he's moved his computer again. Either way I have to start by proving it is real. That means as far as I can see some sort of vibration detector that produces numbers an expert will accept. And that's where I need help, because looking on the internet I don't know enough to tell what sort of thing I need. If I'm lucky, someone will know.

    And thanks for the sympathy. At least I am getting just enough sleep even when it's bad. Not like it was. (shudder).
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    Re: Bad vibration

    Still no solutions from me, but a couple of suggestions.
    Do you know of any mobile masts locally that may have been installed or upgraded during that time ?
    Could it be wind 'playing' the empty void ?
    Could you have a sonic chimney ?

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    Re: Bad vibration

    Yeah. Came very close back in Jan. I make my money from renting a couple of rooms. It doesn't make much but I don't need much, however it IS my source of money and I need to be sure I can rent rooms. Effectively I'm not just moving my home, I'm moving my business. When things improved, I stopped looking because I love my little home. I extended it and have got it just about right for me and for renting and I can't find anything else as good in the area for the money. Which means something isn't right. And the housing market has gone flat since the brexit vote - I don't mind that - I'm swapping property for property not for cash so the market state doesn't matter from that point of view. It does matter though in the sense there don't seem to be that many properties coming onto the market and a high proportion of those are there are unrealistically priced or a bit of digging around finds the sewage farm (matters when you MUST rent rooms)/subsidence/whatever. Currently I'm considering renting out the whole property and moving out of London and renting somewhere tiny. Devon looks possible. Or Scotland...

    edit: not aware of any mobile masts being changed or upgraded recently. There is definitely a motor involved in this somewhere.
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    Re: Bad vibration

    I'm guessing you feel the vibration rather than actually hear it so a suggestion of sleeping with music playing through noise cancelling headphones isn't going to help really.

    Renting out the property and spending a few weeks in Cornwall would sort out whether it's where you live or not surely and is less drastic than selling up.

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    Re: Bad vibration

    I've only known one other incidence of this kind of thing happening.
    A pipe under a persons house. It wasn't the pipe that was the problem really . It was the railway track that the pipe ran along until it was diverted to residential areas. The movement of the trains made the pipe vibrate .......straight under this persons house. Nothing could be done and the house was eventually knocked down for a small park/pathway.


    Sorry Clod no help at all.....sell up and move.

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    Re: Bad vibration

    Clod
    Not much help from me either as far on who to contact exactly or what machine would detect the vibration.

    I believe you feel the vibration - I believe you hear the vibration

    I have sensitive hearing - I can hear most foot steps outside around my house before one rings my door bell - or my hubby was taking the garbage out.

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    Re: Bad vibration

    Quote Originally Posted by Betty Boop View Post
    I'm guessing you feel the vibration rather than actually hear it so a suggestion of sleeping with music playing through noise cancelling headphones isn't going to help really.
    Maybe if he kept playing the Beach Boys' "Good Vibrations".

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    Re: Bad vibration

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    Back in the 70s I used to work as a projectionist in a dump of a Community Cinema (later converted into a Wine Bar). Some way beneath this cinema was a local network railway tunnel. This had the inevitable consequence that about every 20 mins or so there would be a rumbling / vibration throughout the building - it was quite comical at the time when Earthquake was released, as that was released in "Sensorama", which emitted low frequency sounds that were meant to resonate with the furniture. We had it without the fancy equipment.
    Perhaps your place has an Underground Railway deep beneath you?

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