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    Stop this hideous, depraved crime !

    We must stop this hideous, depraved, life-destroying crime...............................

    I just signed the petition, “UK Parliament: Prohibit the purchase of Acid to those without a licence.” I think this is important. Will you sign it too? There seems to be an ever-increasing 'insanity' creeping into our lives. What makes 'young' thugs throw a corrosive liquid into the face of a total stranger ? Why ? What 'joy' do such perpetrators get from performing such a vicious and depraved action ? It's madness.

    I'm so glad that we have a car with air conditioning - we can drive with our car windows closed, in populated areas !

    Here’s the link: WARNING - A very graphic photograph (in case you can be upset by such pics)

    https://www.change.org/p/uk-parliame...iter=178834349

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    Re: Stop this hideous, depraved crime !

    Good lord.

    I don't have a license and I used a litre of the stuff this month.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spot View Post
    Good lord.

    I don't have a license and I used a litre of the stuff this month.
    If you have a legitimate reason for obtaining a corrosive substance, and can satisfy the police, then there should be no reason why you should not have possession of such a substance. Of course there should be restrictions and regulations on secure storage. But you would realise all this wouldn't you Mr. spot, so please don't wind people up.

    My father was a country town pharmacist, and he was required to supply certain poisons to certain people. These people were on a list, overseen by the police, and their premises regularly checked for safety and security purposes. My father was also checked on a very regular basis and he had to keep a very accurate book with full details of who, what and why and the signature of the person requiring the substance. He also had a special secure steel cabinet for such substances, which was also thoroughly checked on a very regular basis.

    He also sold corrosive substances, but although there was only a minimum age limit for the obtaining of these substances, my father was very particular to whom he sold them to and required to know the reason for a person wanting such corrosive substances. Other establishments, such as ironmongers etc. would probably not be so fastidious as my father was, and probably still aren't. Therefore it would seem sensible to introduce stiffer regulations in an effort to stem this nasty trend.

    I am sure that people who need to use corrosive substances for their work or legitimate and legal requirements would welcome extra regulations, for their own protection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G#Gill View Post
    If you have a legitimate reason for obtaining a corrosive substance, and can satisfy the police, then there should be no reason why you should not have possession of such a substance. Of course there should be restrictions and regulations on secure storage. But you would realise all this wouldn't you Mr. spot, so please don't wind people up.
    I'm not winding anyone up. I have had, all my life, the right to buy and use the stuff, and I'm not going to go and justify myself before a police constable in order to carry on doing it.

    If he wants to prevent some 16 year old using it in the course of thieving then he should do his bloody job and prevent the crime by proper policing methods, and if he's not competent to do that then he should step aside and be a bus driver while someone competent does the policing bit.

    Making me apply for a license to buy, store and use a litre of acid isn't going to prevent any criminal in the country from using it without a license, all it's going to do is restrict my existing freedom.

    Are you going to put a license restriction on toilet bleach too, Gill? Have you any idea what that does to unprotected skin and eyes?

    Are you going to petition for a license restriction to buy, store and use a kitchen knife? I don't even know how many kitchen knives I own. Do you? Should you?
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    Good lord.

    I don't have a license and I used a litre of the stuff this month.
    I am interested to know what you are using it for..............if you don't mind.

    I have used it for clearing urinal pipe work and u bends......( you couldn't believe it)
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    I am interested to know what you are using it for..............if you don't mind.

    I have used it for clearing urinal pipe work and u bends......( you couldn't believe it)
    A local business has a tangle of old 2" PVC waste pipe with several U-bends and developed a blockage way down past the first two of them with no access to the pipe beyond that point, with water backing up through overflows after running the tap for a minute. I didn't think the drain cleaner acid would be effective that far from the plug but I blew as much water along as I could, slowly poured an entire litre into the system and left it overnight. Rather surprisingly the tap can now run indefinitely with no backing up or overflow.

    I actually put safety goggles and nitrile gloves on to do it, which shows how scary I think that strength of that acid is. I do note, however, that stronger versions of it are already on the hazardous chemicals list and need a police licence to buy, store or use and I have none of that here. What I do have is in a locked room.
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    Re: Stop this hideous, depraved crime !

    Likewise, I've bought packages of the stuff over the counter several times in the past few years and I would have been absolutely stuck if I had not been allowed to.

    It's concentrated sulphuric acid, otherwise known as battery acid and you can easily get it from any car battery. Trying to restrict its sale to licensed persons is a nonsense for as long as wet cell batteries are available..

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    You can bet it's from old dead car batteries that these hideous depraved criminals are getting it, too. Not shops. The litre bottles I buy probably contain old battery acid from scrap merchants doing tear-down recycling of car parts.
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    Wonderful, Mr. spot. You're quite right about the toilet bleach - I suppose these bastards can get hold of many different corrosive substances when you stop to think about it. Of course you are quite right about the police. Some of the blame for the increase in lawlessness must lay at the feet of the useless government (they really don't deserve a capital G), for cutting essential funding, but some of the blame must be apportioned to some of the dozey so-called law enforcement officers of this land who just like the uniform and the 'power' that goes with it. I'm sorry to say that there seems to be an ever increasing number of so-called police officers who just go through the motions of policing -"not enough evidence" to pursue a crime.

    They 'just went through the motions' when we had a burglary in broad daylight while we were visiting my dying mother ! Wrecked everywhere, obviously looking for money (nobody told them we were broke !). They terrified our large dog by waving a 'night stick' at her to obviously keep her in one room, and they grabbed a large fire extinguisher and sprayed the powder all over the stairway. They broke in by forcing our front door (which we sorted straight away). We preserved a perfect shoe print on our stair carpet, in the dust from the extinguisher, we preserved several finger prints that were on the 'night stick', and one or two other pieces of evidence. Socco arrived the following day (only 18 or so hours after we called the police !). I just don't know why they bothered at all.

    They glanced around at the various items we showed them. They didn't bother to take any pictures, or itemise the finger prints. I think they stayed for about 10 minutes ! "Not enough evidence" was their remark to us, and the reason they didn't make much of an effort. We felt very, very let down. It was obvious to us that, unless there's a body involved or a gun or knife, the police won't waste their time on such 'small cases'. Matters not that the trauma caused our dog to have a stroke within the year and die before she had lived her full time, and caused us trauma that our dog and property had been attacked while we were visiting my mother dying in hospital. The police are supposed to protect life and property, but they bloody well don't !
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    You can bet it's from old dead car batteries that these hideous depraved criminals are getting it, too. Not shops. The litre bottles I buy probably contain old battery acid from scrap merchants doing tear-down recycling of car parts.
    I top up forklift batteries too, and know if they are over filled the spillage is very damaging, I put in distilled water but the spillage is acid....................very dangerous.
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