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    The Trump-Pence national security disaster

    Dubya had his "catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor" which enabled his flood of new internal security powers and external belligerence. The current Administration will undoubtedly need something equivalent. We might like to try predicting what it could be before it happens.

    Either it's going to take the form of a foreign provocation or an internal outrage.

    A foreign provocation would involve either a nation-state or gross terrorism.

    The nation-state option presumably involves WMD in order to be sufficiently shocking, and after the Iraq fiasco it has to be a single incident of a real deployed WMD.

    Gross terrorism is a replay of 9/11 in that it involves a perception of foreigners, undoubtedly "Islamic Extremists", killing a lot of civilians within a single Homeland incident.

    As for an internal outrage there really is only one which would stir things sufficiently to support a clampdown with new emergency powers, and that would involve the assassination of the President and the promotion of a presumably compromised Pence to the office.

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    Re: The Trump-Pence national security disaster

    Could be the fear of turning into another Sweden ?

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    Re: The Trump-Pence national security disaster

    I think Trump will nuke N. Korea. The US hasn't nuked anyone in a long time.

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    Re: The Trump-Pence national security disaster

    More people say nice things about President Trump than say nice things about North Korea, but not by much. Both get a bad press. It would definitely show that the military chain of command was still taking orders though, something people might doubt at the moment.
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    Re: The Trump-Pence national security disaster

    The reorganisation of the Pence administration is swift and thorough - this coup has had some planning. Congress and the Senate become effectively religious right. Key appointments are made in the FBI, CIA and other security organisations I don't know of to consolidate the hold on power. Creationism begins to be taught in School, and all schools have to set up Christian American Cadets which is invitation only, state funded and does lots of fun things like camping and learning to use guns right....
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    Re: The Trump-Pence national security disaster

    Quote Originally Posted by Clodhopper View Post
    Congress and the Senate become effectively religious right.
    That's been the case for as long as I can remember. Religious disengagement by a candidate for office has always prevented his or her election in America during the last, say, sixty years. If you're not visibly, demonstrably and self-professedly religious, if you don't attend church, you're not going to be a congressman, a senator or a President. I'd be interested to see a list of exceptions to that rule, it must be very short.

    It's totally different in England, for example. Here, a Christian religious adherence is viewed more as an embarrassing peculiarity than as a requirement. Consider Tony Blair, for example - every time he mentioned God the nation cringed. It reached the point where Alistair Campbell had to interrupt him in public, if I remember right, saying "We don't do God".
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    (...if spot had been there at the Creation, when God said let there be light! he'd have been asking what colour...)

    Ok: Congress and the Senate become so religiously right they override their Constitution and replace it with the Holy Bible. Pence has a gold phone installed on the While House desk and claims it is a hotline to God. He asks to be addressed in future as Arbiter of the Churches of God and calls a Crusade on the Holy land which turns out to be California. Every liberal, atheist and agnostic is burned at the stake. Muslims are deported to Iowa and forgotten.
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    Re: The Trump-Pence national security disaster

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    I was busy elsewhere that week and I said some harsh words later when I heard what had been going on. I still have no idea how we're going to clean up the mess.
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    Re: The Trump-Pence national security disaster

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    I was busy elsewhere that week and I said some harsh words later when I heard what had been going on. I still have no idea how we're going to clean up the mess.
    What mess ? Creation ?

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