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    Re: Trump's Capitalism Is Working. Jobless Rate For Latinos At All Time Low.

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    I somehow knew that you would say that.
    Your chiding aside, who's right, You or him? I think he is.

    Anyway, you missed my point.
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    Re: Trump's Capitalism Is Working. Jobless Rate For Latinos At All Time Low.

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    Well, to start with, you can read the stories like you would read Aesop or the mythologies of Greece and Rome, or the Norse Mythologies. There are lessons to be learned and examples of how humans developed their ideas of morals and ideals. There are stories about humans and their failures, and their faith.
    Yes, but they are stories none the less. They are mostly invented stories in order to create a certain mindset. One can try to make the case that there was a time when such stories served a purpose for the survival of the species, and some people do try to make that case. I would not, however.
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    The overall theme of the Bible is man and his struggle to understand the world and the universe.
    Is that right? It's not an attempt to define the world and the universe?

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    You can read the story of David, for example and find someone who, in spite of his failures and foibles, managed to hold on to his faith and accomplish his "destiny"
    Meaning what exactly? That faith, or belief in something or someone with no basis in reality is worth fighting to hold on to? That's exactly what all you religious people do to varying degrees. My point is that it's not, especially now that we know so much more that contradicts the foundation of biblical faith.
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    And age old story of Mankind.
    What?

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    The whole story of how mankind began to evolve society, ideals, and morals.
    "The whole story"? Really? Come now!
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    There are some very good lessons to be learned, which Frodo and his ilk completely miss
    You said yourself that it's subjective. But wait, your subjective interpretation of biblical meaning and application is, what, more, what, objective? That's cute! And predictable.

    Please forgive us all, Lord, for we know not what we do!
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    Re: Trump's Capitalism Is Working. Jobless Rate For Latinos At All Time Low.

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    Yes, but they are stories none the less. They are mostly invented stories in order to create a certain mindset. One can try to make the case that there was a time when such stories served a purpose for the survival of the species, and some people do try to make that case. I would not, however.
    Is that right? It's not an attempt to define the world and the universe?

    Meaning what exactly? That faith, or belief in something or someone with no basis in reality is worth fighting to hold on to? That's exactly what all you religious people do to varying degrees. My point is that it's not, especially now that we know so much more that contradicts the foundation of biblical faith.What?

    "The whole story"? Really? Come now!
    You said yourself that it's subjective. But wait, your subjective interpretation of biblical meaning and application is, what, more, what, objective? That's cute! And predictable.

    Please forgive us all, Lord, for we know not what we do!
    always must turn it into a confrontation. Nature of the beast, I suppose.
    Nevermind, I won't bother you again.
    It may not be so much that I've conceded your point as that you just can't hear me rolling my eyes.

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    Re: Trump's Capitalism Is Working. Jobless Rate For Latinos At All Time Low.

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    I am sorry that you have no appreciation for the poetry and lessons that can be learned from the Bible. I suppose it comes from your almost rabid rejection of anything deemed religious.
    But then, that is probably best a separate discussion, entirely.

    I think that you are as much a literalist as our pal Frodo is. Just on the other end of the see-saw.
    If you feel this is confrontational, your post above would be where that began.

    But my latest post is not confrontational in the least. In fact, I think it's rather generous considering your accusations above.

    Come to think of it, I meant to ask you to explain that last line in your confrontational post. What is the "other end of the see-saw" from religion?
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    Re: Trump's Capitalism Is Working. Jobless Rate For Latinos At All Time Low.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahso! View Post

    Come to think of it, I meant to ask you to explain that last line in your confrontational post. What is the "other end of the see-saw" from religion?
    That was no accusation.
    You are offended by the suggestion that you might be anti-religion?

    I guess I lied. I probably WILL bother you again. My apologies in advance.
    I actually enjoy conversing with you, AHSO!. I just have to figure out how to do so without getting your dander up.
    It may not be so much that I've conceded your point as that you just can't hear me rolling my eyes.

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    Re: Trump's Capitalism Is Working. Jobless Rate For Latinos At All Time Low.

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    That was no accusation.
    You are offended by the suggestion that you might be anti-religion?

    I guess I lied. I probably WILL bother you again. My apologies in advance.
    I actually enjoy conversing with you, AHSO!. I just have to figure out how to do so without getting your dander up.
    I ask you a simple question to clarify a sentence you typed and this is your response? Do you still not see how your posts equivocate? Is reading comprehension an issue with all you religious people?

    I am not upset or offended in the slightest. I enjoy rough and tumble. I'm surprised you haven't figured that out yet. Well, not surprised - offended maybe!

    There's actually much in that confrontational post of yours that I'd like to address, but I was willing to limit it to the last line. I thought that would be the easiest.
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    Re: Under Trump's Capitalism: Black Unemployment Rate Lowest in 17 Years

    Hypocrisy runs rampant in American history: Who put these men in power and kept them there> Batista in Cuba, Sadam Hussein , Marcos, Noriega. They speak of democracy but if you are a dictator of the right you are OK but if a dictator of the left then you gotta go. Iran lost a good deal of money with the west invading their oil patch. The vi==Vietnam war was a needless war i n which hundreds of thousands lost their lives. And then of course the Us was defeated.

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    Re: Trump's Capitalism Is Working. Jobless Rate For Latinos At All Time Low.

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    I ask you a simple question to clarify a sentence you typed and this is your response?
    There were several questions in the post, but most seemed rhetorical. and only one that might be regarded as "simple"

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    Do you still not see how your posts equivocate? Is reading comprehension an issue with all you religious people?

    I am not upset or offended in the slightest. I enjoy rough and tumble. I'm surprised you haven't figured that out yet. Well, not surprised - offended maybe!

    There's actually much in that confrontational post of yours that I'd like to address, but I was willing to limit it to the last line. I thought that would be the easiest.
    But, yes, as I said, It's all very subjective. But then, I am just one of those religious people, so what do I know?
    It may not be so much that I've conceded your point as that you just can't hear me rolling my eyes.

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    Re: Under Obama's Socialist Policies, GDP Was The LOWEST In US History.

    I guess fundamentalists do not totally accept the Bible. Whatever happened to action on "The good Samaritan? Either it is ignored or simply not even considered. By the nature of the parable anyone in trouble is your neighbor. What about the impoverished in. America..

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    Re: Trump's Capitalism Is Working. Jobless Rate For Latinos At All Time Low.

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    Let's try again. On one end of the see-saw we obviously have a literal interpretation of the bible (I don't know why you brought religion in general into this, but probably neither do you) and on the other side, according to you, we have a literal interpretation of something else which you've left undefined. All I'm asking is what that is. Might you be referring to atheism?

    I understand you like to be ambiguous in your posting on this subject so you don't have to commit yourself. That's so you leave enough room for equivocation.
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