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    Conservative MP defects to UKIP

    I thought I knew more than this until I opened my mouth

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    Re: Conservative MP defects to UKIP

    Respect to him. Whether you agree with his reasons or not, he is not only resigning hist from a party that is (currently) in Government, but defecting to a party that doesn't have any M.P.s at all (yet). This is a major case demonstration of his having the integrity to openly stand by the courage of his convictions.

    Regardless of your politics, be they Tory or Labour (Liberal just fawn to whoever holds the conch), both of them have the official policy of being Pro-Europe. This, however, has been demonstrated recently by the massive rise of UKIP's following not to be the general feeling of the electorate who they are meant to represent. Conservative offer the bribe of a referendum 'if' they get into power (whether or not they would keep to that bribe is another matter), while Labour refuse such a referendum. This is something I feel will do Labour major harm.

    It's time Labour & Conservative (and all the little pebbles on the beach) got together & came to an agreement that there WILL be a referendum to the the People speak, one way or the other, regardless of who gets into Government at the next election. It's obvious it's a subject that there's a great deal of disharmony about & it's time something was done to settle the matter one way or the other, regardless of Party Politics.

    I'm a Labour supporter, but I don't agree with ALL their policies - Europe being one. This is why, when voting on the issue of the EU I voted UKIP (who, not surprisingly, got in round here).

    Continued EU membership is a matter that HAS to be addressed & perhaps his defection will rattle a few cages to encourage something to happen.

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    Re: Conservative MP defects to UKIP

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    One of the first ?[/QUOTE]

    What are you talking about, one of the first?

    You seem a little behind the times Bruv.

    Most of UKIP Is made up of Conservatives and BNP.... those Conservatives who knew they didn't have a hope of getting returned to Westminter unless they defected to a more progressive Party.

    Nigel Farage: Ukip's controversial politicians have all defected from the Conservatives - Telegraph

    I do have a list somewhere I was given of all the Conservatives who joined UKIP.

    Don't have time now to look,

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    Re: Conservative MP defects to UKIP

    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar Namechange View Post
    What are you talking about, one of the first?

    You seem a little behind the times Bruv.
    What?
    How many standing MP's have I missed that resigned forcing a By-election ?
    I thought I knew more than this until I opened my mouth

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    Re: Conservative MP defects to UKIP

    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar Namechange View Post
    Most of UKIP Is made up of Conservatives and BNP.... those Conservatives who knew they didn't have a hope of getting returned to Westminter unless they defected to a more progressive Party.
    Except that UKIP bans former BNP Members from joining the party.

    (Ukip 'Quite Proud' Of Taking BNP Votes, Says Nigel Farage)

    I must say, I quite liked this quote...
    "I would think we have probably taken a third of the BNP vote directly from them, I don't think anyone has done more, apart from Nick Griffin on Question Time, to damage the BNP than Ukip and I am quite proud of that."

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    Re: Conservative MP defects to UKIP

    Quote Originally Posted by Bruv View Post
    What?
    How many standing MP's have I missed that resigned forcing a By-election ?
    Then I must apologise.

    Standing MP's forcing a By Is different I concur,

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    Re: Conservative MP defects to UKIP

    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar Namechange View Post
    Then I must apologise.

    Standing MP's forcing a By Is different I concur,
    That is a refreshing change
    I thought I knew more than this until I opened my mouth

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    Re: Conservative MP defects to UKIP

    Quote Originally Posted by FourPart View Post
    Except that UKIP bans former BNP Members from joining the party.

    (Ukip 'Quite Proud' Of Taking BNP Votes, Says Nigel Farage)

    I must say, I quite liked this quote...
    UKIP Is a Party of misfits and I would no more trust them to become even more far right than the EDL If they get Into power than I would a neo-nazi Party In Germany.

    Banned BNP from joining? Yeah right !!! Unfortunately, I uphold the trust placed In me. From my membership lists, I could name the people who left the BNP to join UKIP and now want to rejoin us. However much I'd like to prove a point, I can not do that. That's something you'll have to take my word for over Farage. All I will say, Is I've just got home from a Party meeting where a member of UKIP and former member of the BNP showed me his bloody UKIP membership card !!! I've even got pics of the guy with Griffin !!!!

    Misfits the damn lot of them, even Farage has gone public stating he's only In It to disrupt Parliament and he'll resign In 5 years. He was not elected to stand In South Thanet, he chose the Seat only because the Ward has swung back and forth for years. It's an unsafe Seat and prime for a swing that he's chosen very carefully.

    Farage Is a clown with a collection of misfits who could not get elected for any other Party.

    Andy Olson couldn't get elected when he stood for the Green Party
    Joe O'Neill an Independant who lost his Seat went on to contest the Swinton Sear again for the Green Party. Lost again and Is now trying UKIP

    Mary Ferrer an ex Lib Dem lost her Seat under Lib Dems so also joined The Green Party to try her luck there. Lost her deposit In the Weaste and Seedley Ward and this year she's trying again for UKIP

    Janice Taylor who failed to get elected repeatedly In the Irwell Riverside Ward for the Lib Dems Is now trying her luck with UKIP

    Shnuer Odze, A Conservative Councillor suspended by Hackney council and forced to resign. Carried on In Salford for the Conservatives and failed repeatedly to win a seat. Now trying his hand at UKIP

    I could go on an on...

    New Party ???? Viable Candidates????

    UKIP Is the dregs of an old last teabag, squeezed out to make one more cuppa.

    This Is not a new progressive Party as portrayed by Farage, this Is a mish mash of failures who have defected.

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    Re: Conservative MP defects to UKIP

    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar Namechange View Post
    I could go on an on...

    Could ?

    Sounds to me like you are worried.
    I thought I knew more than this until I opened my mouth

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    Re: Conservative MP defects to UKIP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruv View Post
    Could ?

    Sounds to me like you are worried.
    Worried ?? About what?

    I predict UKIP will crash and burn within 5 years. I predict that when the misfits fail to get returned, they'll defect back to the Party that see's the biggest swing and again target soft Seats.

    I predict a swing to UKIP In May but I don't believe It will be as high percentage wise as Farage believes.

    I predict larger swings to Labour.

    I do predict UKIP will see Seats won and I predict 5 Seats nationwide.

    The BNP has been decimated from the Brons leadership challenge. Nick expelled him from the Party and he resigned as MEP. Brons and Kemp set up a new Party but I'm seeing those who joined them, gradually come begging for us to take them back.
    However, I am not deluded. We may possibly win a couple of Seats In unsafe Wards. We may not. The Internal Party Politics were so damaging that the new Chairman has a lot to do In a very short time. We have a good Idea of how the General will go for UKIP.
    Our Issue, Is the electorate being hoodwinked Into believing that this Is some kind of New Party. It's not. It's full of tired old has beens and never beens having one last stab at getting returned.

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