Pantyhose for men

[anastrophe]

Originally Posted by Bullet

Homosexuality is immoral. I base this on all that I've learned from the bible and the example of Sodom and Gomorrah in Genesis, and 1st Corinthians 6:9 "What! Do you not know that unrighteous persons will not inherit god's kingdom? Do not be misled. Neither fornicators nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men kept for unnatural purposes nor men who lie with men."

are you married? if not, do you have sex with your partner? then you're a fornicator. so, you're immoral. oh well.

but still, this misses the point. so what if they will not inherit god's kingdom? that's their problem, not yours. why should someone suffer a broken nose because you don't like the way they live their life?

Homosexuality is unnatural. How many animals of this earth are homosexual?

a few species have demonstrated homosexuality. Gulls. chimpanzees. but this misses the point.

what does 'unnatural' have to do with anything? eating cooked meat is 'unnatural'. driving a car is 'unnatural'. so what?

If your born a man, you are a man.

okay. so, let's say someone is born with only one poorly functioning kidney. they were born that way, they have to stay that way, is that your stance? they should not be allowed to have an operation to make them whole?

so what of the man who feels inside that he is really female. or the woman who feels inside that she is really a man. tough noogies? they can't try to find some happiness, because they were born one way, they have to stay that way? in the past, there was no alternative - they couldn't change genders. modern medicine has changed that. same for cleft palates and some kinds of deafness and any many other ills.

too bad there's no operation to give people compassion.

I can see you're very passionate about this topic. And it may be very fashionable on you're part. But at least your not putting it in my face. Thank you.

fashion has nothing to do with it. respect for the other human beings we share this planet with is what it's about. hey, i can't stand country music. but i don't punch people in the face if they're listening to it.

[Bullet]

[quote=anastrophe]are you married? if not, do you have sex with your partner? then you're a fornicator. so, you're immoral. oh well. Point, but I do not put my sins in your face. Why can't you get it in your thick skull, it's not about being gay, it's about being gay and shoving it in my face.

but still, this misses the point. so what if they will not inherit god's kingdom? that's their problem, not yours. why should someone suffer a broken nose because you don't like the way they live their life?

a few species have demonstrated homosexuality. Gulls. chimpanzees. but this misses the point.

what does 'unnatural' have to do with anything? eating cooked meat is 'unnatural'. driving a car is 'unnatural'. so what? How is eating cooked meat unnatural? Driving a car? Your really grasping for straws. Child molesters are unnatural too, do you say "so what" to that?

okay. so, let's say someone is born with only one poorly functioning kidney. they were born that way, they have to stay that way, is that your stance? they should not be allowed to have an operation to make them whole? How do I respond to such an ignorant comparison. I can't so I won't.

so what of the man who feels inside that he is really female. or the woman who feels inside that she is really a man. tough noogies? they can't try to find some happiness, because they were born one way, they have to stay that way? in the past, there was no alternative - they couldn't change genders. modern medicine has changed that. same for cleft palates and some kinds of deafness and any many other ills. Are you claiming that being gay is an illness?

too bad there's no operation to give people compassion. Or reason.
fashion has nothing to do with it. respect for the other human beings we share this planet with is what it's about. hey, i can't stand country music. but i don't punch people in the face if they're listening to it. If they came into your house and put it on your radio and duct taped earphones to your head, I'd hold them for ya, swing away. [/QUOTE]

[koan]

I wonder if this would have gone better had he said nylons instead of pantyhose?

Just didn't want Bullet to get the last word.

[weeder]

Originally Posted by Bullet

I really don't want to hurt them because they are gay. I have some friends who are gay. I am just extremely repulsed by the flaming crossdressing IN YOUR FACE fags. If you want to house hoagie in your rectum, more power to ya, but I just don't want to know about it and I don't want it in my face. And before any of you pinko sympathizers start raging about gay rights, well I have mine too. If some queer wants to come here and flame all over the forum, he has that right, and I have the right to speak my mind about it too. If you don't like it, don't read my post.

I hope your gay "FRIENDS" never find themselves alone, in a dark
parking lot with you. Ot catch you in a bad mood............It would be a wonderful thing if potentially dangerous people would expose themselves, the way you do.
Then we wouldnt have only to rely on their homophobia to recognize them.

I dont relate to the panty hose thing . I also have always hated them. Strangulating torture devices if you ask me. Tights are another story. I have always bought and worn mens sox, sweaters, tee shirts and pajamas. Discovered when I was very young that they are made better for some reason.

[along-for-the-ride]

My preference is for tanned bare legs over pantyhose.

Pantyhose comfortable???

[along-for-the-ride]

Originally Posted by along-for-the-ride

My preference is for tanned bare legs over pantyhose.

Pantyhose comfortable???

tanned, bare, and shaved...

[dly645]

WOW I really started something !!!! First of all I,m not a flaming drag queen, and I'm not gay. My belief in everyone being true to themselves and wearing what ever makes them happy and comfortable then they should have that freedom, I feel this way in addition and beyond my situation of trasitioning from M2F. I would not and have not ever approached a man with any type of sexual suggestion. I agree the gentleman that would hurt me for just being there is tragic. I am now finally becoming at ease with myself as my process is at long last unfolding, After my divorce and I retired and as qwe age the testostrone slows down we begin to feel more at ease with our feminine side. So the problem with co- workers and family as been small as I don't have much family either. And we never had any kids. I certainly those who spoke up in my behalf. Hopefully the world will grow with more open minded people around. I have not decided if I will have the final surgery that decision is yet to come as I work with my therapist and learn more about myself, I do soon ex[pect to begin living 24/7 as a woman. I thinkl a female is the greatest creature Gopd has created. I know I will never ever be truly female but some things are impossible. I have crossdressed and goen out in public for many years and it is when I feelmost alive. And no I do not look like a movie star nor do I expect to just let me blend in society as a woman. I won't rock your world and please don't try top crumple mine. David aka Jean Marie

[Bullet]

[quote=weeder]I hope your gay "FRIENDS" never find themselves alone, in a dark
parking lot with you. Ot catch you in a bad mood............It would be a wonderful thing if potentially dangerous people would expose themselves, the way you do.
Then we wouldnt have only to rely on their homophobia to recognize them.

QUOTE] Can you read? Or are you just dim witted. I said "I really DON'T want to hurt them....." Maybe you should read things twice before you open your fat mouth.

[anastrophe]

Originally Posted by Bullet

Can you read? Or are you just dim witted. I said "I really DON'T want to hurt them....." Maybe you should read things twice before you open your fat mouth.

i refer you to your post #10 in this thread, to wit:

"Now if you said something to me, I guarantee you'd get the biggest baddest most extreme @ss kickin of your life."

so, perhaps one might be forgiven for not being entirely sure which statement reflects your real feelings on the matter.

[koan]

I'm so happy to see you back dly. I was hoping you were not just here to create a stir. I hope you go to introductions and let us know a more diverse aspect of who you are. Welcome to the garden and I look forward (hope for) your unique insights on the variety of topics in the Garden. You have a difficult life and I'm sure you have many interesting perspectives to offer.