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    That old saying " If you pay peanuts, you get monkey's " Is racist...

    Two BNP activists arrested over 'pay peanuts, get monkeys' leaflet | Politics | theguardian.com


    "if you pay peanuts, you get monkeys” means that if you pay a small amount ("peanuts"), you don’t get very good workers ("monkeys"). “Peanuts” has long been in American slang, meaning “a small amount.” “Monkey” has had several slang meanings, often representing “nonsense.”

    Despite the American slang origins of these words, the phrase’s earliest citations in the 1960s and 1870s are mostly from England. the phrase is first cited in print by Leslie Coulthard in 1966.


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    If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys.
    something that you say which means that only stupid people will work for you if you do not pay very much
    ‘This company is full of incompetents!’ ‘Well, if you pay peanuts, you get monkeys.’
    Cambridge Idioms Dictionary, 2nd ed. Copyright © Cambridge University Press 2006.

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    Re: That old saying " If you pay peanuts, you get monkey's " Is racist...

    You can't win with the PC police, I've seen people get upset over the word "niggardly."

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    Re: That old saying " If you pay peanuts, you get monkey's " Is racist...

    Quote Originally Posted by SnoozeAgain View Post
    You can't win with the PC police, I've seen people get upset over the word "niggardly."
    So Clive Jefferson gets arrested for that because his party Is the far right BNP and The Tories, get away with this.
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    Re: That old saying " If you pay peanuts, you get monkey's " Is racist...

    Got a question for you Oscar. How many tory MP's does it take to make a complete idiot?

    Fracking uproar peer causes further derision with geography revision | Environment | theguardian.com

    Will the last tory leaving the north east please turn out the lights.

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    Re: That old saying " If you pay peanuts, you get monkey's " Is racist...

    I never thought of Polish folks as a different "Race" but I know my Pollack cousins would have been highly offended by that leaflet.

    And can somebody explain to me, what exactly, is a Tory?
    It may not be so much that I've conceded your point as that you just can't hear me rolling my eyes.

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    Re: That old saying " If you pay peanuts, you get monkey's " Is racist...

    Quote Originally Posted by oscar View Post
    So Clive Jefferson gets arrested for that because his party Is the far right BNP and The Tories, get away with this.
    Actually, that is not racists.
    It does not imply any particular race, or nationality (other than someone, not a UK citizen, who has no proper visa or work permit.)
    It may not be so much that I've conceded your point as that you just can't hear me rolling my eyes.

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    Re: That old saying " If you pay peanuts, you get monkey's " Is racist...

    Quote Originally Posted by LarsMac View Post

    And can somebody explain to me, what exactly, is a Tory?
    It has roots going back hundreds of years but is a basic term for the Conservative Party

    From Wikipedia.....

    In Britain after 1832 the Tory Party was replaced by the Conservative Party, and "Tory" has become shorthand for a member of the Conservative Party or for the party in general. Many Conservatives still call themselves "Tory" to differentiate themselves from opponents, and the term is common in the media.
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    Re: That old saying " If you pay peanuts, you get monkey's " Is racist...

    ...and I don't think the term is in itself racist. Used in a certain connotation it could be construed as such. Racism is as much about the intent of language used and in what context. Despite the fact that these words were said by people who, by definition of their political persuasion, might be racist, its stupid to make such a meal out of it. It's daft, plain and simple.
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    Re: That old saying " If you pay peanuts, you get monkey's " Is racist...

    Quote Originally Posted by Snowfire View Post
    It has roots going back hundreds of years but is a basic term for the Conservative Party

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    Thanks.
    I only really know the term from its late 18th century American version.
    Tories were the Colonists who remained loyal to The Crown during the revolution.
    It may not be so much that I've conceded your point as that you just can't hear me rolling my eyes.

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    Re: That old saying " If you pay peanuts, you get monkey's " Is racist...

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    the facts behind the prosecution are that the BNP and other parties were canvassing for a local by-election.

    The Labour party not only employed Eastern European leaflet distributors but also British workers.

    First of all, the leaflet distributors delivered the leaflets ' Have you voted today ' added with ' call this number for transport to the polling station should you require It ' a whole week early but second, they delivered them to the wrong ward ( District ).where no election was being held.

    Hence the BNP leaflet...

    Clive Jefferson was bailed last night and faces charges of Inciting racial hatred.

    What YOU the tax payer now face, Is Clive entering a plea of Not Guilty and an ensuing week long trial by jury In which he will no doubt be cleared as was Nick Griffin when they tried the same with him.


    A few years back, I was having an arguement with a police officer, a Seageant on the telephone. I said, that old saying ' I didn't come up the Thames on a Banana boat you know'.... only for him to explode telling me I was being racist. He said he could send a car round and have me arrested right there. I dared him to do as he said and I would see him In court. I was all ready and tbh a little disappointed I didn't get a day In court. What I did do was print out pages from a history site where It stated that during the Black Death or the plague of England, most of Europe was also In the grip of the Plague. One of the very few countries that was not affected was Holland and the West Indians would only take the banana boats as far as Holland and then the Dutch then brought them up the Thames Into the heart of London and the plague. Due to this, Londoners believed the Dutch to be foolish, risking death and that's one theory as to how the saying originated. Although other theories think ' Dutch Courage' comes from having a drink of alcohol, some theorists believe Dutch Courage also originated from the time of the plague because the Dutch were the only one's brave enough to sail Into London during the plague.

    I sent him the Information In the post adding that as I went to school, I suggest he did like wise.

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