Cancer incidence & progression Vitamin d status.

[tedhutchinson]

Vitamin D and Cancer Prevention Dr Cedric Garland presents the evidence for improving 25(OH)D status to 60ng 150nmol/l to reduce cancer incidence. It takes half an hour but it is very detailed. You may need to listen twice.

For those new to Vitamin D supplementation Heartscanblog Dr Davis working in Wisconsin finds that women need 5000iu/daily on average and men 6000iu/daily to reach 60ng. 150nmol/l. Of course Dr Davis is a heart doctor and is doing it to help prevent heart disease but if the side effect is to also prevent other chronic illness like MS, Diabetes, that's fine.

I've been using these Now foods 5000iu If you're a man, take one daily during the week and a couple at weekends to get just over 6000iu/d. Introductory CODE WAB666 will save you $5. UK readers need to limit order value to under £18 (to avoid customs duty) which is where the code comes in handy.

A 25(OH)D test after 3 months supplementing will check that you are not taking too little still. Grassroots D'Action offer twice yearly vitamin d tests for $30 £20 a time

[Odie]

I've been on Vitamin D for cancer for two years now.

1000UI as prescribed by my oncologist.

[tedhutchinson]

Originally Posted by Odie

I've been on Vitamin D for cancer for two years now.

1000UI as prescribed by my oncologist.

You live at latitude 43 Toronto.
this time of year NO vitamin d is available from sunshine because UVB doesn't reach the ground and it's too cold to lay naked on the grass.

Your current status is at best around 35~40nmol/l 14~16ng for cancer prevention/treatment you need 150nmol/l 60ng just look at the levels associated with the least incidence of chronic illness. while you remain below 54ng 145nmol/l you are more vulnerable than you need to be.

You need roughly an extra 4000iu minimum not 1000iu. Dr Davis who works in Wisconsin finds women on average require 5000iu/daily/D3 to get above 60ng 150nmol/l. and men 6000iu. 1000iu is roughly what you would make in 5minutes sunshine. Do you really think that humans evolved to spend only 5minutes a day outdoors over all those centuries of evolution?

1000iu can only raise your status 10ng or 25nmol/l.

If you add that to your current status you will still be insufficient as far as absorbing calcium from your diet is concerned. There is no way with just a 1000iu from D3 that you can be anywhere near 80nmol/l 32ng.

Get yourself some decent strength D3 from Iherb.
Get yourself tested using the link in my previous post.

Read how Vitamin d may be helpful in slowing cancer progression when used in EFFECTIVE amounts.

[oscar]

Originally Posted by tedhutchinson

You live at latitude 43 Toronto.
this time of year NO vitamin d is available from sunshine because UVB doesn't reach the ground and it's too cold to lay naked on the grass.

Your current status is at best around 35~40nmol/l 14~16ng for cancer prevention/treatment you need 150nmol/l 60ng just look at the levels associated with the least incidence of chronic illness. while you remain below 54ng 145nmol/l you are more vulnerable than you need to be.

You need roughly an extra 4000iu minimum not 1000iu. Dr Davis who works in Wisconsin finds women on average require 5000iu/daily/D3 to get above 60ng 150nmol/l. and men 6000iu. 1000iu is roughly what you would make in 5minutes sunshine. Do you really think that humans evolved to spend only 5minutes a day outdoors over all those centuries of evolution?

1000iu can only raise your status 10ng or 25nmol/l.

If you add that to your current status you will still be insufficient as far as absorbing calcium from your diet is concerned. There is no way with just a 1000iu from D3 that you can be anywhere near 80nmol/l 32ng.

Get yourself some decent strength D3 from Iherb.
Get yourself tested using the link in my previous post.

Read how Vitamin d may be helpful in slowing cancer progression when used in EFFECTIVE amounts.

What do you suggest for some-one with cancer?

[Odie]

Originally Posted by oscar

What do you suggest for some-one with cancer?

Vitamin D was just announced 2 year ago for women with breast cancer.

I certainly would ask your pharmacist or doctor.

[oscar]

Originally Posted by Odie

Vitamin D was just announced 2 year ago for women with breast cancer.

I certainly would ask your pharmacist or doctor.

I was thinking more of Pete but I'll check the health shop for it thanks Odie.

[Odie]

Originally Posted by oscar

I was thinking more of Pete but I'll check the health shop for it thanks Odie.

Oh I know you were thinking of Pete, what I meant was to ask your pharmacist for him......not breast cancer like I had.

[oscar]

Originally Posted by Odie

Oh I know you were thinking of Pete, what I meant was to ask your pharmacist for him......not breast cancer like I had.

Thanks....... I looked at the theory that seaweed can help with cancer as well.

[Odie]

Originally Posted by oscar

Thanks....... I looked at the theory that seaweed can help with cancer as well.

I just googled 'vitamin d for cancer', it is there from the Canadian Cancer Association, but it will not let me get the link.

also recommended for prostate cancer......just google it.

and the amount I am taking is correct, not what tedhutchinson said here.


I really think it would be wise for Peter to take it, let me know what you read.

[tedhutchinson]

Originally Posted by Odie

Iand the amount I am taking is correct, not what tedhutchinson said here..

If when your shadow is shorter than your height, you lay naked in the sun for 5 minutes your body will make, roughly 1000iu.

20~30 minutes generates 4000~6000iu.

Why do you think your body makes that much vitamin D if it only needs 1000iu?

For goodness sake listen to what Dr Cedric Garland has to say on the video and stop spreading out of date inaccurate information online. Your oncologist may be trying to drum up extra business by keeping you vitamin d insufficient but you are a fool if you allow it to continue.

If you genuinely believe your current 25(OH)D status is OK then you won't mind spending $30 to get it tested here. If your status is less than 150nmol/l 60ng you will need to adjust your intake by Serum 25(OH)D can be expected to rise by about 1 ng/mL (2.5 nmol/L) for every 100 IU of additional vitamin D each day.

If when you get your 25(OH)D test result from zrt back you can prove I am wrong PM me your address and I will refund the $30. I can confidently say that because the evidence from the latest researchers proves what I am saying is absolutely true.

Before you reply listen to Whats a Vitamin D Deficiency? and make sure you understand what Heaney is saying in this talk.

The cheapest 5000iu oil based gel capsules for Vitamin D3 are NOW foods. From IHERB they are around $8.80 code WAB666 will save you $5. UK readers have to limit order to 3 packs (using that code) or they may have to pay customs duty on orders over £18.