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View Poll Results: Are you more conservative than me or more liberal than me?
I'm so far left of you, it isnt even funny. 8 47.06%
I'm left of you, but not too far. 3 17.65%
I'm so far right of you, it isnt even funny. 0 0%
I'm right of you, but not too far. 6 35.29%
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Old 03-19-2008, 07:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Using my opinons in life in the following catagories please tell me if you fall to my left (more liberal) or my right (more conservative)

1. Marriage: Between a man and woman only, no exceptions, no domestic partnerships allowed.
2. Military/Diplomacy: Kill every terrorists in every country regardless of international law.
3. Total and open free trade based on product desire and let the consumer drive the economy.
4. Total balanced budget, no borrowing ever.
5. No government entitlements. (no social security, no healthcare, no welfare).
6. Legalize all substances, make laws regarding the negligent use of any product.
7. Penelties for lawbreakers are severe, and swift punishment is carried out but when your are done paying you are done, no more system to track you or stigmatize you.
8. Inact the death penelty by public hanging.
9. Outlaw all forms of abortion, its murder and is punishable by the death penalty.
10. Parents can legally spank thier children.
11. Flat Tax, no more than 4%. With 2% of your total tax payment going to the agencies of your choice.
12. Public education is driven by testing to move to the next level, private education is optional. Parents are responsible either way.
13. Seperation of Church and State shall be claryfied and defined to mean that no one denomination or sect shall at any time assume a role of lawmaking power in the government, but that the traditions and symbols of our founding influencial religions (Judeo-Christian) shall be permissable in public areas. The use of the generic term 'God' attributes to tradition of long helf belief and does not constitute a government recommndation to follow 'God'.

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1. Marriage: Between a man and woman only, no exceptions, no domestic partnerships allowed. I don't agree, time has come for a change.
2. Military/Diplomacy: Kill every terrorists in every country regardless of international law. Boy I wish we could.
3. Total and open free trade based on product desire and let the consumer drive the economy.I agree.
4. Total balanced budget, no borrowing ever.dreamer.
5. No government entitlements. (no social security, no healthcare, no welfare).Not fair I have 5 years till retirement I worked damn hard for my Social Security. I do agree welfare is out of control.
6. Legalize all substances, make laws regarding the negligent use of any product.Only some not all.
7. Penelties for lawbreakers are severe, and swift punishment is carried out but when your are done paying you are done, no more system to track you or stigmatize you. Wouldn't work for repeat offenders.
8. Inact the death penelty by public hanging.OK
9. Outlaw all forms of abortion, its murder and is punishable by the death penalty.No what about rapes. Who would be punished the Dr. or the pregnant women, or child who got pregnant because they were raped.
10. Parents can legally spank thier children.NO.
11. Flat Tax, no more than 4%. With 2% of your total tax payment going to the agencies of your choice.excellent
12. Public education is driven by testing to move to the next level, private education is optional. Parents are responsible either way.I agree somewhat. Not everyone can afford the cost of private schools, or the Ivy League Colleges.
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Old 03-19-2008, 08:26 PM   #3 (permalink)
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1. Marriage: Between a man and woman only, no exceptions, no domestic partnerships allowed. I don't agree, time has come for a change.
2. Military/Diplomacy: Kill every terrorists in every country regardless of international law. Boy I wish we could.
3. Total and open free trade based on product desire and let the consumer drive the economy.I agree.
4. Total balanced budget, no borrowing ever.dreamer.
5. No government entitlements. (no social security, no healthcare, no welfare).Not fair I have 5 years till retirement I worked damn hard for my Social Security. I do agree welfare is out of control.
6. Legalize all substances, make laws regarding the negligent use of any product.Only some not all.
7. Penelties for lawbreakers are severe, and swift punishment is carried out but when your are done paying you are done, no more system to track you or stigmatize you. Wouldn't work for repeat offenders.
8. Inact the death penelty by public hanging.OK
9. Outlaw all forms of abortion, its murder and is punishable by the death penalty.No what about rapes.
10. Parents can legally spank thier children.NO.
11. Flat Tax, no more than 4%. With 2% of your total tax payment going to the agencies of your choice.excellent
12. Public education is driven by testing to move to the next level, private education is optional. Parents are responsible either way.I agree somewhat. Not everyone can afford the cost of private schools, or the Ivy League Colleges.
Oh I love it Carla!

Thanks, I'll comment some but I want to see where folks fall first. But your points are noted and Ive actually thought through some of it, so Im looking forward to adding more.
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Using my opinons in life in the following catagories please tell me if you fall to my left (more liberal) or my right (more conservative)
1. Marriage: Between a man and woman only, no exceptions, no domestic partnerships allowed. I agree
2. Military/Diplomacy: Kill every terrorists in every country regardless of international law. I agree!!
3. Total and open free trade based on product desire and let the consumer drive the economy. I agree
4. Total balanced budget, no borrowing ever. I agree
5. No government entitlements. (no social security, no healthcare, no welfare). I have a problem with that, I think it does need to be altered to make sure that people that REALLY need it. And Social Securtiy should be given to our Senior Citizens.
6. Legalize all substances, make laws regarding the negligent use of any product. I agree
7. Penelties for lawbreakers are severe, and swift punishment is carried out but when your are done paying you are done, no more system to track you or stigmatize you. I agree
8. Inact the death penelty by public hanging.I agree
9. Outlaw all forms of abortion, its murder and is punishable by the death penalty.
10. Parents can legally spank thier children. I agree
11. Flat Tax, no more than 4%. With 2% of your total tax payment going to the agencies of your choice. cool!
12. Public education is driven by testing to move to the next level, private education is optional. Parents are responsible either way. I agree
13. Seperation of Church and State shall be claryfied and defined to mean that no one denomination or sect shall at any time assume a role of lawmaking power in the government, but that the traditions and symbols of our founding influencial religions (Judeo-Christian) shall be permissable in public areas. The use of the generic term 'God' attributes to tradition of long helf belief and does not constitute a government recommndation to follow 'God'. I agree!
I would vote, but you didn't make a choice for "I'm pretty much right WITH you".....


by the way....I have something to share with you about my final grade on my paper....I'll do it on the original Christian Fundamentalism Thread.....

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I would vote, but you didn't make a choice for "I'm pretty much right WITH you".....


by the way....I have something to share with you about my final grade on my paper....I'll do it on the original Christian Fundamentalism Thread.....
oops, well to the right of me but not far is pretty good, you only disgreed on one part! Well call that close enough.

I'll go check on the thread!
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1. Marriage: Between a man and woman only, no exceptions, no domestic partnerships allowed. Agree.
2. Military/Diplomacy: Kill every terrorists in every country regardless of international law. In theory, yes. Define terrorist though.
3. Total and open free trade based on product desire and let the consumer drive the economy. Agree
4. Total balanced budget, no borrowing ever. I wish, but don't think it's possible if we're shooting all the terrorists.
5. No government entitlements. (no social security, no healthcare, no welfare). Disagree; SocSec should be an aid, not the sole source of income; health care should be reformed with more focus on cost containment and more controls on pharmaceutical companies. Welfare should be temporary and one should have to give back in the form of service.
6. Legalize all substances, make laws regarding the negligent use of any product.Disagree
7. Penelties for lawbreakers are severe, and swift punishment is carried out but when your are done paying you are done, no more system to track you or stigmatize you. As long as we're killing the child molesters, I could agree.
8. Inact the death penelty by public hanging. And sell tickets too? Should have an age limit as to who can see it. No children in other words.
9. Outlaw all forms of abortion, its murder and is punishable by the death penalty.I'd make the exception if it's to save the live of a mother.
10. Parents can legally spank thier children. Whew! I was afraid they'd come arrest my mom!
11. Flat Tax, no more than 4%. With 2% of your total tax payment going to the agencies of your choice. Excellent!
12. Public education is driven by testing to move to the next level, private education is optional. Parents are responsible either way. Agree
13. Seperation of Church and State shall be claryfied and defined to mean that no one denomination or sect shall at any time assume a role of lawmaking power in the government, but that the traditions and symbols of our founding influencial religions (Judeo-Christian) shall be permissable in public areas. The use of the generic term 'God' attributes to tradition of long helf belief and does not constitute a government recommndation to follow 'God'. Agree.
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1. Marriage: Between a man and woman only, no exceptions, no domestic partnerships allowed. Agree.
2. Military/Diplomacy: Kill every terrorists in every country regardless of international law. In theory, yes. Define terrorist though.
3. Total and open free trade based on product desire and let the consumer drive the economy. Agree
4. Total balanced budget, no borrowing ever. I wish, but don't think it's possible if we're shooting all the terrorists.
5. No government entitlements. (no social security, no healthcare, no welfare). Disagree; SocSec should be an aid, not the sole source of income; health care should be reformed with more focus on cost containment and more controls on pharmaceutical companies. Welfare should be temporary and one should have to give back in the form of service.
6. Legalize all substances, make laws regarding the negligent use of any product.Disagree
7. Penelties for lawbreakers are severe, and swift punishment is carried out but when your are done paying you are done, no more system to track you or stigmatize you. As long as we're killing the child molesters, I could agree.
8. Inact the death penelty by public hanging. And sell tickets too? Should have an age limit as to who can see it. No children in other words.
9. Outlaw all forms of abortion, its murder and is punishable by the death penalty.I'd make the exception if it's to save the live of a mother.
10. Parents can legally spank thier children. Whew! I was afraid they'd come arrest my mom!
11. Flat Tax, no more than 4%. With 2% of your total tax payment going to the agencies of your choice. Excellent!
12. Public education is driven by testing to move to the next level, private education is optional. Parents are responsible either way. Agree
13. Seperation of Church and State shall be claryfied and defined to mean that no one denomination or sect shall at any time assume a role of lawmaking power in the government, but that the traditions and symbols of our founding influencial religions (Judeo-Christian) shall be permissable in public areas. The use of the generic term 'God' attributes to tradition of long helf belief and does not constitute a government recommndation to follow 'God'. Agree.
2. Anyone who attacks the innocent in protest of our actions.

4. If we all pay 4% and dont borrow we can do it easily, remember no entitlements also means no payouts to other nations.

6. If we increase the penelty for negligent use of substances than we dont have to control the influx of them.

7. Agreed.

8. Children in attendance should be parent dictated. To take an unruly child with aviolent anger problem to a hangin with a parent who explains the consequences of a convicted fellon of rape/assault would be a very powerful lesson.

9. Wow tough decisions, in all these, never a perfectly perfect world. I am human of course and I began to sift out senarios when its ok to abort along the lines of what your saying. But I have to say no. I cant change on this one, hard as it is to make this happen. The life of the child outweighs the life of the mother. I think this almost never happens by the way, I think the practice of medicine has so gummed up our thinking that we are convicned this happens on a regular basis and I dont think it does.
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1. Marriage: Between a man and woman only, no exceptions, no domestic partnerships allowed. I don't agree, time has come for a change.
2. Military/Diplomacy: Kill every terrorists in every country regardless of international law. Boy I wish we could.
3. Total and open free trade based on product desire and let the consumer drive the economy.I agree.
4. Total balanced budget, no borrowing ever.dreamer.
5. No government entitlements. (no social security, no healthcare, no welfare).Not fair I have 5 years till retirement I worked damn hard for my Social Security. I do agree welfare is out of control.
6. Legalize all substances, make laws regarding the negligent use of any product.Only some not all.
7. Penelties for lawbreakers are severe, and swift punishment is carried out but when your are done paying you are done, no more system to track you or stigmatize you. Wouldn't work for repeat offenders.
8. Inact the death penelty by public hanging.OK
9. Outlaw all forms of abortion, its murder and is punishable by the death penalty.No what about rapes. Who would be punished the Dr. or the pregnant women, or child who got pregnant because they were raped.
10. Parents can legally spank thier children.NO.
11. Flat Tax, no more than 4%. With 2% of your total tax payment going to the agencies of your choice.excellent
12. Public education is driven by testing to move to the next level, private education is optional. Parents are responsible either way.I agree somewhat. Not everyone can afford the cost of private schools, or the Ivy League Colleges.
1. well we just wont agree on this one!

4. would you agree we quit borrowing and move towards that direction though?

5. We'd have to phase folks out, if your in the system now you'd get what your entitled to, but after, well its tough titty said the kitty when the milk ran dry!

7. Well this is one of those things when I have to anact my more severe penalties all violent crimes are punishable by death. There wont be any repeat offenders except for small time folks. No rapists, violent offedners get back out. They have demonstrated that they cannot olive in society, and forfited their right to a second chance.

9. Its the person who performs the abortion that gets punished in all cases, the rapist gets the death penalty as well. I understand the mother shoud be punished the same way, but not in the case of rape. The mother is innocent in that case.

10. We'd have much less crime and obedience to authority if chidlren were properly admonished and disicplained which includes the abilty to spank a child. Remember under my ideals abuse of a child is a violent crime and punishable by a savere penalty.

12. We have public education for those that cant afford private, if you want private then you have to pay for it. But public education for those kids who test out at each level should go thorugh colleg as well as K-12. But it has to be by performance.
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