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    Let's assume for a split second that the earth really was flat and smooth, there probably wouldn't have been any ice and all of earth's water was contained by the oceans and clouds.
    Apparently it rained for 40 days. With all that extra water in the clouds one wonders whether the sun got a chance to shine through. Creationists are idiots and twist everything to make the bible appear truthful.
    All that to one side, you have not answered the kangaroo and polar bear mystery. What can creationists come up with on that one? Come on give us another laugh.
    Any connection between your reality and mine is purely coincidental.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzy View Post
    Let's assume for a split second that the earth really was flat and smooth, there probably wouldn't have been any ice and all of earth's water was contained by the oceans and clouds.
    Apparently it rained for 40 days. With all that extra water in the clouds one wonders whether the sun got a chance to shine through. Creationists are idiots and twist everything to make the bible appear truthful.
    All that to one side, you have not answered the kangaroo and polar bear mystery. What can creationists come up with on that one? Come on give us another laugh.
    Before the flood, the earth was pretty flat and smooth. The Bible says that the "Waters of the Deep" sprang up. If you look at Google Earth you can see where the earth cracked and the waters of the deep flooded the earth. Look in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean, you will see the crack in the earth. There probably weren't any Ice Caps. That came later after the flood when more water was introduced to the top of the earth. There was also a huge layer of water above the atmosphere that protected life from the sun's harmful rays. The earth was like a giant hyperberic chamber, which would explain why men lived hundreds of years and the dinosaurs and other creatures were able to get so large. The dinosaurs were giant lizards. Lizards never stop growing. So if a lizard were to live 10 times longer than normal, it would get quite large now wouldn't it? I did answer the kangaroo, polar bear mystery. You obviously did understand so I will re-explain how they got on the ark. At the time of the flood, the earth was likely a super continent called "Pangea". There would have been no problem for any animal to get to the ark. With that said, all that would be required for all of the animals to be represented is for their specific kind to be represented. You wouldn't have to of had every species of bear, dog, cat, ect. for them to have been saved. All breeds of dogs came from 2 generic dogs, but they always stay dogs. Same with bear. Same with cats. There are Wolves, Foxes, Kyotes, Dachshunds, German Shepherds, are all within the dog family and you can't find a half breed between the dog kind and any other kind of animals. They always stay dogs. Same with the cat family, Lions, Tiger, Pumas, Cheetahs, Bob Cats, Minx, House Cats, Perseans, are all in the cat family. You can't find a half cat, half any other kind of animal. There is no missing link because evolution is false.

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    Re: How To Get To Heaven When You Die

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    Before the flood, the earth was pretty flat and smooth. The Bible says that the "Waters of the Deep" sprang up. If you look at Google Earth you can see where the earth cracked and the waters of the deep flooded the earth. Look in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean, you will see the crack in the earth. There probably weren't any Ice Caps. That came later after the flood when more water was introduced to the top of the earth. There was also a huge layer of water above the atmosphere that protected life from the sun's harmful rays. The earth was like a giant hyperberic chamber, which would explain why men lived hundreds of years and the dinosaurs and other creatures were able to get so large. The dinosaurs were giant lizards. Lizards never stop growing. So if a lizard were to live 10 times longer than normal, it would get quite large now wouldn't it? I did answer the kangaroo, polar bear mystery. You obviously did understand so I will re-explain how they got on the ark. At the time of the flood, the earth was likely a super continent called "Pangea". There would have been no problem for any animal to get to the ark. With that said, all that would be required for all of the animals to be represented is for their specific kind to be represented. You wouldn't have to of had every species of bear, dog, cat, ect. for them to have been saved. All breeds of dogs came from 2 generic dogs, but they always stay dogs. Same with bear. Same with cats. There are Wolves, Foxes, Kyotes, Dachshunds, German Shepherds, are all within the dog family and you can't find a half breed between the dog kind and any other kind of animals. They always stay dogs. Same with the cat family, Lions, Tiger, Pumas, Cheetahs, Bob Cats, Minx, House Cats, Perseans, are all in the cat family. You can't find a half cat, half any other kind of animal. There is no missing link because evolution is false.
    If you only need two generic animals of each kind then all the different breeds must have evolved from that. I don't believe a word you're saying.
    Any connection between your reality and mine is purely coincidental.

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    If you only need two generic animals of each kind then all the different breeds must have evolved from that. I don't believe a word you're saying.
    Evolution only occurs within the species. It's called lateral adaptation. Lateral Adaptation (AKA Micro Evolution-Within the Species) is a genetic reshuffling of the information. Creationists agree that this occurs. Macro (Darwinian Evolution-One kind of animal evolving into another) has never been observed to happen ever. Ever hard of the missing link? Well it's still missing. In fact, there are several missing links between all of the different kinds of animals. So, yes, two generic dogs could have given us all of the different types of dogs including wolves, kyotes, foxes, ect. But they never changed into say, a half cat, half dog type of animal. It's the same for every other kind of animal. Show me a half dog, half other kind of animal other than a dog. Show me a half cat, half other type of animal other than a cat. There is no transitional fossils and they should be abundant if evolution were true. It isn't. That's the dirty little lie that evolutionists are keeping from you. They use examples of lateral adaptation (evolution within the species) and try to claim that macro evolution is happening (darwinian, one animal evolving into another). In order for an animal to change into another kind of animal, there MUST be an increase in genetic information. The problem is that this has never happened, EVER. Only a reshuffling of information. Take it from Richard Dawkins:

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    An Extract Out Of Josephus's Discourse To The Greeks Concerning Hades
    1. NOW as to Hades, wherein the souls of the of the good things they see, and rejoice in the righteous and unrighteous are detained, it is necessary to speak of it. Hades is a place in the world not regularly finished; a subterraneous region, wherein the light of this world does not shine; from which circumstance, that in this region the light does not shine, it cannot be but there must be in it perpetual darkness. This region is allotted as a place of custody for souls, ill which angels are appointed as guardians to them, who distribute to them temporary punishments, agreeable to every one's behavior and manners.
    2. In this region there is a certain place set apart, as a lake of unquenchable fire, whereinto we suppose no one hath hitherto been cast; but it is prepared for a day afore-determined by God, in which one righteous sentence shall deservedly be passed upon all men; when the unjust, and those that have been disobedient to God, and have given honor to such idols as have been the vain operations of the hands of men as to God himself, shall be adjudged to this everlasting punishment, as having been the causes of defilement; while the just shall obtain an incorruptible and never-fading kingdom. These are now indeed confined in Hades, but not in the same place wherein the unjust are confined.
    3. For there is one descent into this region, at whose gate we believe there stands an archangel with an host; which gate when those pass through that are conducted down by the angels appointed over souls, they do not go the same way; but the just are guided to the right hand, and are led with hymns, sung by the angels appointed over that place, unto a region of light, in which the just have dwelt from the beginning of the world; not constrained by necessity, but ever enjoying the prospect of the good things they see, and rejoic in the expectation of those new enjoyments which will be peculiar to every one of them, and esteeming those things beyond what we have here; with whom there is no place of toil, no burning heat, no piercing cold, nor are any briers there; but the countenance of the and of the just, which they see, always smiles them, while they wait for that rest and eternal new life in heaven, which is to succeed this region. This place we call The Bosom of Abraham.
    4. But as to the unjust, they are dragged by force to the left hand by the angels allotted for punishment, no longer going with a good-will, but as prisoners driven by violence; to whom are sent the angels appointed over them to reproach them and threaten them with their terrible looks, and to thrust them still downwards. Now those angels that are set over these souls drag them into the neighborhood of hell itself; who, when they are hard by it, continually hear the noise of it, and do not stand clear of the hot vapor itself; but when they have a near view of this spectacle, as of a terrible and exceeding great prospect of fire, they are struck with a fearful expectation of a future judgment, and in effect punished thereby: and not only so, but where they see the place [or choir] of the fathers and of the just, even hereby are they punished; for a chaos deep and large is fixed between them; insomuch that a just man that hath compassion upon them cannot be admitted, nor can one that is unjust, if he were bold enough to attempt it, pass over it.
    5. This is the discourse concerning Hades, wherein the souls of all men are confined until a proper season, which God hath determined, when he will make a resurrection of all men from the dead, not procuring a transmigration of souls from one body to another, but raising again those very bodies, which you Greeks, seeing to be dissolved, do not believe [their resurrection]. But learn not to disbelieve it; for while you believe that the soul is created, and yet is made immortal by God, according to the doctrine of Plato, and this in time, be not incredulous; but believe that God is able, when he hath raised to life that body which was made as a compound of the same elements, to make it immortal; for it must never be said of God, that he is able to do some things, and unable to do others. We have therefore believed that the body will be raised again; for although it be dissolved, it is not perished; for the earth receives its remains, and preserves them; and while they are like seed, and are mixed among the more fruitful soil, they flourish, and what is sown is indeed sown bare grain, but at the mighty sound of God the Creator, it will sprout up, and be raised in a clothed and glorious condition, though not before it has been dissolved, and mixed [with the earth]. So that we have not rashly believed the resurrection of the body; for although it be dissolved for a time on account of the original transgression, it exists still, and is cast into the earth as into a potter's furnace, in order to be formed again, not in order to rise again such as it was before, but in a state of purity, and so as never to he destroyed any more. And to every body shall its own soul be restored. And when it hath clothed itself with that body, it will not be subject to misery, but, being itself pure, it will continue with its pure body, and rejoice with it, with which it having walked righteously now in this world, and never having had it as a snare, it will receive it again with great gladness. But as for the unjust, they will receive their bodies not changed, not freed from diseases or distempers, nor made glorious, but with the same diseases wherein they died; and such as they were in their unbelief, the same shall they be when they shall be faithfully judged.
    6. For all men, the just as well as the unjust, shall be brought before God the word: for to him hath the Father committed all judgment : and he, in order to fulfill the will of his Father, shall come as Judge, whom we call Christ. For Minos and Rhadamanthus are not the judges, as you Greeks do suppose, but he whom God and the Father hath glorified: CONCERNING WHOM WE HAVE ELSEWHERE GIVEN A MORE PARTICULAR ACCOUNT, FOR THE SAKE OF THOSE WHO SEEK AFTER TRUTH. This person, exercising the righteous judgment of the Father towards all men, hath prepared a just sentence for every one, according to his works; at whose judgment-seat when all men, and angels, and demons shall stand, they will send forth one voice, and say, JUST IS THY JUDGMENT; the rejoinder to which will bring a just sentence upon both parties, by giving justly to those that have done well an everlasting fruition; but allotting to the lovers of wicked works eternal punishment. To these belong the unquenchable fire, and that without end, and a certain fiery worm, never dying, and not destroying the body, but continuing its eruption out of the body with never-ceasing grief: neither will sleep give ease to these men, nor will the night afford them comfort; death will not free them from their punishment, nor will the interceding prayers of their kindred profit them; for the just are no longer seen by them, nor are they thought worthy of remembrance. But the just shall remember only their righteous actions, whereby they have attained the heavenly kingdom, in which there is no sleep, no sorrow, no corruption, no care, no night, no day measured by time, no sun driven in his course along the circle of heaven by necessity, and measuring out the bounds and conversions of the seasons, for the better illumination of the life of men; no moon decreasing and increasing, or introducing a variety of seasons, nor will she then moisten the earth; no burning sun, no Bear turning round [the pole], no Orion to rise, no wandering of innumerable stars. The earth will not then be difficult to be passed over, nor will it he hard to find out the court of paradise, nor will there be any fearful roaring of the sea, forbidding the passengers to walk on it; even that will be made easily passable to the just, though it will not be void of moisture. Heaven will not then be uninhabitable by men, and it will not be impossible to discover the way of ascending thither. The earth will not be uncultivated, nor require too much labor of men, but will bring forth its fruits of its own accord, and will be well adorned with them. There will be no more generations of wild beasts, nor will the substance of the rest of the animals shoot out any more; for it will not produce men, but the number of the righteous will continue, and never fail, together with righteous angels, and spirits [of God], and with his word, as a choir of righteous men and women that never grow old, and continue in an incorruptible state, singing hymns to God, who hath advanced them to that happiness, by the means of a regular institution of life; with whom the whole creation also will lift up a perpetual hymn from corruption, to incorruption, as glorified by a splendid and pure spirit. It will not then be restrained by a bond of necessity, but with a lively freedom shall offer up a voluntary hymn, and shall praise him that made them, together with the angels, and spirits, and men now freed from all bondage.
    7. And now, if you Gentiles will be persuaded by these motives, and leave your vain imaginations about your pedigrees, and gaining of riches, and philosophy, and will not spend your time about subtleties of words, and thereby lead your minds into error, and if you will apply your ears to the hearing of the inspired prophets, the interpreters both of God and of his word, and will believe in God, you shall both be partakers of these things, and obtain the good things that are to come; you shall see the ascent unto the immense heaven plainly, and that kingdom which is there. For what God hath now concealed in silence [will be then made manifest,] what neither eye hath seen, nor ear hath heard, nor hath it entered into the heart of man, the things that God hath prepared for them that love him.
    8. In whatsoever ways I shall find you, in them shall I judge you entirely: so cries the END of all things. And he who hath at first lived a virtuous lift, but towards the latter end falls into vice, these labors by him before endured shall be altogether vain and unprofitable, even as in a play, brought to an ill catastrophe. Whosoever shall have lived wickedly and luxuriously may repent; however, there will be need of much time to conquer an evil habit, and even after repentance his whole life must be guarded with great care and diligence, after the manner of a body, which, after it hath been a long time afflicted with a distemper, requires a stricter diet and method of living; for though it may be possible, perhaps, to break off the chain of our irregular affections at once, yet our amendment cannot be secured without the grace of God, the prayers of good men, the help of the brethren, and our own sincere repentance and constant care. It is a good thing not to sin at all; it is also good, having sinned, to repent; as it is best to have health always, but it is a good thing to recover from a distemper. To God be glory and dominion for ever and ever Amen.
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    If you only need two generic animals of each kind then all the different breeds must have evolved from that. I don't believe a word you're saying.
    Yes all of the different breeds did come from that. Notice how they always stay dogs. They always stay horses. They always stay cats within the different kinds.

    Here is a good article on it.

    How did all the animals fit on Noah's Ark? - creation.com

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    This approach to the Bible makes it a very real joke. It destroys the the real historical vallue of the Bible. It is nothing more than clap trap or a real obervable creating dancing. In the 21st century!!!!!!!d
    May God if He exists preserve us from such nonsense. In my view this is not Christianity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted View Post
    This approach to the Bible makes it a very real joke. It destroys the the real historical vallue of the Bible. It is nothing more than clap trap or a real obervable creating dancing. In the 21st century!!!!!!!d
    May God if He exists preserve us from such nonsense. In my view this is not Christianity.
    Telling the truth is not a joke. What's in the Bible is historically perfect so you can't destroy it's value. The real and observable confirms what I said. There is no missing link between ANY of the animal kinds. God's word isn't nonsense. So, the teachings of the Bible are not Christianity? How does that make sense since Jesus inspired the Bible?

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