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Old 08-08-2009, 06:01 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Barack Obama's Health Care Plan Explained!

THE THINGS THAT MATTER:

August 08-2009:

Barack Obama's Health Care Plan Explained!


As far as I understand, anyone who does not have Health Care, can have it under the Obama proposal.

* If you already have Health Care, and are satisfied with it. Then you can KEEP your health Care Plan. You don't have to change it period.

* The other OPTION is The Public One, which will allow anyone without Health Care already, to choose that Public Plan.

* It will give you the same benefits as the Private Plan does, under Obama's proposals.

The general concept of the plan is to ensure that ALL Americans have a Viable and Reliable Health Care Plan, regardless of their employment or Un-employment status!

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THE THINGS THAT MATTER:

August 08-2009:

Barack Obama's Health Care Plan Explained!


As far as I understand, anyone who does not have Health Care, can have it under the Obama proposal.

* If you already have Health Care, and are satisfied with it. Then you can KEEP your health Care Plan. You don't have to change it period.

* The other OPTION is The Public One, which will allow anyone without Health Care already, to choose that Public Plan.

* It will give you the same benefits as the Private Plan does, under Obama's proposals.

The general concept of the plan is to ensure that ALL Americans have a Viable and Reliable Health Care Plan, regardless of their employment or Un-employment status!

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If only that were true. Obviously you trust this president.

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Re: Barack Obama's Health Care Plan Explained!

Honey - if that were all there was to it - the bill would be 10 pages long.

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As far as I understand, anyone who does not have Health Care, can have it under the Obama proposal.

* If you already have Health Care, and are satisfied with it. Then you can KEEP your health Care Plan. You don't have to change it period.

* The other OPTION is The Public One, which will allow anyone without Health Care already, to choose that Public Plan.
Welcome back Derryck, it's been quite a while!

What you describe sounds pretty much like the European health care models though I'm sure there are differences in the detail.

I'm interested to know what's meant by "anyone" though. Is this anyone within the physical boundaries of the USA? Is it anyone who's a US citizen and if so does it apply to them when they're abroad as well as when they're in the Homeland? Is it anyone who's resident in the US?
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Re: Barack Obama's Health Care Plan Explained!

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THE THINGS THAT MATTER:

August 08-2009:

Barack Obama's Health Care Plan Explained!


As far as I understand, anyone who does not have Health Care, can have it under the Obama proposal.

* If you already have Health Care, and are satisfied with it. Then you can KEEP your health Care Plan. You don't have to change it period.

* The other OPTION is The Public One, which will allow anyone without Health Care already, to choose that Public Plan.

* It will give you the same benefits as the Private Plan does, under Obama's proposals.

The general concept of the plan is to ensure that ALL Americans have a Viable and Reliable Health Care Plan, regardless of their employment or Un-employment status!

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Thats what Ive been trying to tell them but theyre not listening.
They think old people will be injected with strychnine and dumped into a mass grave and everyone else will have to go to Mexico for x rays.
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Could you supply some links to this information, other than a blog?

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THE THINGS THAT MATTER:

August 08-2009:

Barack Obama's Health Care Plan Explained!


As far as I understand, anyone who does not have Health Care, can have it under the Obama proposal. But everyone already has health care. There is no one in the USA, legally or illegally, who does not have health care available.

* If you already have Health Care, and are satisfied with it. Then you can KEEP your health Care Plan. You don't have to change it period. Do you mean insurance? So if a person likes the healthcare provided by his employer, he can force the employer to keep it even if the employer finds a more cost-effective option? How about cost? Every time I see that phrase "if you like it you can keep it" I see a big gaping unanswered question: will the unchanged healthcare come with unchanged cost?

* The other OPTION is The Public One, which will allow anyone without Health Care already, to choose that Public Plan. What will this "option" do to the competitive market structure? How will Washington avoid destroying the thousands of jobs in the insurance industry?

* It will give you the same benefits as the Private Plan does, under Obama's proposals. If it's the same, why have it?

The general concept of the plan is to ensure that ALL Americans have a Viable and Reliable Health Care Plan, regardless of their employment or Un-employment status!

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The explanation's a little lacking.

Oh, one more question: Where in the Constitution can I find the provision for Congress to provide national healthcare? I can't find any, and I haven't heard of any movement toward an amendment.
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The explanation's a little lacking.

Oh, one more question: Where in the Constitution can I find the provision for Congress to provide national healthcare? I can't find any, and I haven't heard of any movement toward an amendment.

Where in the constitution does it say we can attack soverign nations and depose their leader and install a regime more suitable to our tastes but its not working so we'll just stay until it does?
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From a teacher in the Nashville area
"We are worried about "the cow" when it is all about the "Ice Cream"

The most eye-opening civics lesson I ever had was while teaching third grade this year.


The presidential election was heating up and some of the children showed an interest.
I decided we would have an election for a class president.

We would choose our nominees. They would make a campaign speech and the class would vote.

To simplify the process, candidates were nominated by other class members.


We discussed what kinds of characteristics these students should have.


We got many nominations and from those, Jamie and Olivia were picked to run for the top spot.

The class had done a great job in their selections. Both candidates were good kids.


I thought Jamie might have an advantage because he got lots of parental support.
I had never seen Olivia's mother.

The day arrived when they were to make their speeches.
Jamie went first.


He had specific ideas about how to make our class a better
place. He ended by promising to do his very best.
Everyone applauded and he sat down.

Now is was Olivia's turn to speak.

Her speech was concise.
She said, "If you will vote for me, I will give you ice cream."


She sat down.
The class went wild. "Yes! Yes!


We want ice cream."

She surely would say more. She did not have to.


A discussion followed. How did she plan to pay for the ice cream?


She wasn't sure.


Would her parents buy it or would the class pay for it.


She didn't know.


The class really didn't care.


All they were thinking about was ice cream.

Jamie was forgotten. Olivia won by a landslide.

Every time Barack Obama opened his mouth he offered ice cream and
52 percent of the people reacted like nine year olds.


They want ice cream.
The other 48 percent know


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What about the cost of foreign wars?
Pretty substantial numbers there.
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