Oscar up before the court Friday...

[oscar]

Originally Posted by KSnyder

Ah yes!!!!!!

The boyish insanity plea!

"I was so drunk"

Along with a lawyer claiming that because they were 15 yrs old at the time, yelling ' eff off you effin Paki'... they couldn't possibly know what they were saying. yeah right !!!!

[KSnyder]

Originally Posted by oscar

Along with a lawyer claiming that because they were 15 yrs old at the time, yelling ' eff off you effin Paki'... they couldn't possibly know what they were saying. yeah right !!!!

I remember being 15 quite well! I remember thinking to meself in how idiotic and ignorant alot of 30 year olds were!

You know the horrendous thing about that is?

Alot of them are still idiotic and ignorant!

[oscar]

Originally Posted by KSnyder

I remember being 15 quite well! I remember thinking to meself in how idiotic and ignorant alot of 30 year olds were!

You know the horrendous thing about that is?

Alot of them are still idiotic and ignorant!

I was horrible at 15 yrs old If I were honest. Extremely hormonal and my father and I went several rounds with each other but I always had respect for my elders, the police, Authority etc etc. My husband was actually there when these two were arrested and it took 3 officers to get the cuffs on one of them. They were wrestling on the ground, kicking and screaming, telling the Officers to eff off. At least the Officers saw them for what they were.... nasty little violent rascists and didn't bleat 'They're children' like the odd Officer does and makes excuses for them.

[Odie]

Originally Posted by oscar

They are pleading that they were so drunk, they can't remember doing or saying anything. Thank God for CCTV Camera's eh?

drinking is not an excuse.

[Clodhopper]

well, good for you, oscar, for calling the police.

But I do wonder if the recent heightening of the BNP's public profile is resulting in an increase in racial attacks. It will be interesting to see the crime figures for this year.

[oscar]

Originally Posted by Clodhopper

well, good for you, oscar, for calling the police.

But I do wonder if the recent heightening of the BNP's public profile is resulting in an increase in racial attacks. It will be interesting to see the crime figures for this year.

They were 15 years old at the time and I very much doubt If they even knew who the BNP were.

[G#Gill]

It is way past time to bring back the 'birch' for over 16's and the 'cane' for under 16's. These scum only understand physical punishment - something that will cause physical pain. Unfortunately the UK is governed by Europe, and so will never be able to be masters of their own justice system again, until the UK comes out of Europe. My parents always believed in 'cause and effect' - if you did something wrong, and depending on the severity of that wrong, you get hurt! Simple really. Respect for the law flew out of the window when the precious government decided to ban 'caning' in schools. Look what has happened with no ultimate deterrent!

In the animal world, a mother will cuff her youngster if it is 'naughty', and they learn that if they did a certain thing, it would hurt! Oh, I forgot about all the 'do-gooders' and the anti-violence for children brigade. Oh well, just forget I ever typed anything !

This country has sunk into the quagmire anyway...................... I can't be arsed to be bothered about it any more.

[oscar]

Originally Posted by G#Gill

It is way past time to bring back the 'birch' for over 16's and the 'cane' for under 16's. These scum only understand physical punishment - something that will cause physical pain. Unfortunately the UK is governed by Europe, and so will never be able to be masters of their own justice system again, until the UK comes out of Europe. My parents always believed in 'cause and effect' - if you did something wrong, and depending on the severity of that wrong, you get hurt! Simple really. Respect for the law flew out of the window when the precious government decided to ban 'caning' in schools. Look what has happened with no ultimate deterrent!

In the animal world, a mother will cuff her youngster if it is 'naughty', and they learn that if they did a certain thing, it would hurt! Oh, I forgot about all the 'do-gooders' and the anti-violence for children brigade. Oh well, just forget I ever typed anything !

This country has sunk into the quagmire anyway...................... I can't be arsed to be bothered about it any more.

I have very long chats about the same Gill with local police Officers. It's very Interesting to hear what they would 'Like to do' with these teenagers off the record. Due to the nature of the business of being in the take-away late at night, I have seen it all with them and there Is absolutely no respect for the Police either. They are sick to death of this kind of behaviour and waste of man-power getting called out to them. I had an e mail from the police yesterday that I'm going to post up here that shows the massive Operation that was in place just to combat Halloween night.
I do blame the parents you know. I was certainly no angel as a teenager but we respected the Police and authorites, even our teachers. Now the Government has said 'Enough' and wants the Police to come down hard on these kids. Too little too late.... It's due to them that they are some of the monsters that they are. The police can not win some-times either. The local Councillor actually gets complaints from parents that the police are 'picking' on their kid.

[Clodhopper]

In many ways I blame the parents. The trouble is, the parents in question were probably badly brought up themselves and are not capable of raising kids properly.

Should people have to "qualify" in some way to have children?

[Clodhopper]

Originally Posted by oscar

They were 15 years old at the time and I very much doubt If they even knew who the BNP were.

Quite possibly they don't, but I was speaking more generally. I don't know if the greater public awareness of the BNP will cause an increase in racial attacks or not, but it will be interesting to see.