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    Re: Justice for Harambe

    So in your considered opinion Bush escapes any blame ?

    I would go along with everything you said, although the acoustics wouldn't matter too much if the barrier was suitable.
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    Re: Justice for Harambe

    Might I throw in a further consideration not yet raised?

    The problem would not have arisen had the gorilla not been regarded, and treated, as property.
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    Re: Justice for Harambe

    Does the UK have zoos? animal exhibit of any kind?
    just curious?
    If so - who's responsible for that animal?

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    Re: Justice for Harambe

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    If so - who's responsible for that animal?
    The rules are described in https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...o-practice.pdf

    Just reeding the Introduction ought to answer the question. No zoo can exist here without a government license and has to comply with the oversight and regulations outlined in the paper.

    I doubt any such provisions exist in the US but I'd be interested to discover I'm wrong.
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    Re: Justice for Harambe

    Thanks Spot
    No I didn't get UK government provisions from the intro.

    I will have to acknowledge there's a need for improvements in our zoos/exhibits.
    Safety for all should be the up most important goal.
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    Re: Justice for Harambe

    Quote Originally Posted by Patsy Warnick View Post
    Should the parents be held responsible?

    The child told his parents several times he was going to go into the enclosure.

    One should've had a tight hold on that child.

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    The parents are responsible for their brat, and should have kept a better eye on him.
    However, the ultimate responsibility for the safety of the animals in the zoo must fall to the zoo, itself.
    The barrier was obviously vulnerable to penetration by a determined four-year-old, and both the parents and zoo staff must share in the responsibility for the outcome, in my opinion.

    I do not know that there are any federal guidelines for zoo enclosures. I doubt that. There are quite enough federal guidelines, these days, it seems. At some point local authority and the citizenry must be left to figure things out for themselves.
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    Re: Justice for Harambe

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    I agree with you 100 %.

    The child told his parents several times " he was going in there" "I want to go in there".
    How could the parent NOT hold that child?

    The barrier - I've seen many gorilla areas set up similar - some scared me - too close - not enough security for the public. I remember asking - can he get out?

    I don't believe there are any Gov't. regulations - but as the public screams things will change. Peta

    I remember a zoo in CA - you could ride a elephant around the zoo - yrs ago.
    Peta wouldn't allow that.

    Regulations- new rules/laws will be put in place from this incident.

    It's sad - but I'll take human life over a animal.

    I feel authorities made the right choice for the situation.

    Patsy

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    Re: Justice for Harambe

    OH, I forgot - the parents may now have a law suit for that barrier or lack of.

    Patsy

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    Re: Justice for Harambe

    Quote Originally Posted by LarsMac View Post
    At some point local authority and the citizenry must be left to figure things out for themselves.
    That was the Antebellum protocol for specifying civil rights, as I recall.
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    Re: Justice for Harambe

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    The child should have been better supervised no doubt about that,but the onus must be on the zoo to protect the animals and visitors from each other, a four year old should not be able to enter a area designated for animals.
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