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    Re: We Were Warned in 1963: Has Communist Ideology Overtaken America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bryn Mawr View Post
    Just to point out a slight flaw in your argument, Nazi Germany was Fascist and the USSR, China and North Korea claim to be Communist but are actually Totalitarian Dictatorships - none of them are, were, or claim(ed) to be Socialist.

    The UK under a Labour government is Socialist, none of your examples are anything like.
    Nazi Germany was Socialist nonetheless. It was National Socialism:

    https://www.britannica.com/event/National-Socialism

    National Socialism, German Nationalsozialismus, also called Nazism or Naziism, totalitarian movement led by Adolf Hitler as head of the Nazi Party in Germany. In its intense nationalism, mass appeal, and dictatorial rule, National Socialism shared many elements with Italian fascism. However, Nazism was far more extreme both in its ideas and in its practice. In almost every respect it was an anti-intellectual and atheoretical movement, emphasizing the will of the charismatic dictator as the sole source of inspiration of a people and a nation, as well as a vision of annihilation of all enemies of the Aryan Volk as the one and only goal of Nazi policy.

    USSR WAS Socialist too, hence the name Union Of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics. Yes they are Communist which is just a more extreme end of Socialism.

    China is still Communists, although it has taken on some aspects of Capitalism: http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/2208...ill-communist/

    North Korea is Communist at an extreme: http://victimsofcommunism.org/north-...ism-1948-2014/

    Communism is just a more extreme version of Socialism.

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    Re: We Were Warned in 1963: Has Communist Ideology Overtaken America?

    Quote Originally Posted by xfrodobagginsx View Post
    Nazi Germany was Socialist nonetheless. It was National Socialism:

    https://www.britannica.com/event/National-Socialism

    National Socialism, German Nationalsozialismus, also called Nazism or Naziism, totalitarian movement led by Adolf Hitler as head of the Nazi Party in Germany. In its intense nationalism, mass appeal, and dictatorial rule, National Socialism shared many elements with Italian fascism. However, Nazism was far more extreme both in its ideas and in its practice. In almost every respect it was an anti-intellectual and atheoretical movement, emphasizing the will of the charismatic dictator as the sole source of inspiration of a people and a nation, as well as a vision of annihilation of all enemies of the Aryan Volk as the one and only goal of Nazi policy.

    USSR WAS Socialist too, hence the name Union Of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics. Yes they are Communist which is just a more extreme end of Socialism.

    China is still Communists, although it has taken on some aspects of Capitalism: Is China Still Communist?

    North Korea is Communist at an extreme: North Korea Under Communism 1948-2014 | Victims of Communism

    Communism is just a more extreme version of Socialism.


    Actually, by your logic, North Korea is a Democracy. Democratic People's Republic of Korea.
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    Re: We Were Warned in 1963: Has Communist Ideology Overtaken America?

    Quote Originally Posted by xfrodobagginsx View Post
    Nazi Germany was Socialist nonetheless. It was National Socialism:

    https://www.britannica.com/event/National-Socialism

    National Socialism, German Nationalsozialismus, also called Nazism or Naziism, totalitarian movement led by Adolf Hitler as head of the Nazi Party in Germany. In its intense nationalism, mass appeal, and dictatorial rule, National Socialism shared many elements with Italian fascism. However, Nazism was far more extreme both in its ideas and in its practice. In almost every respect it was an anti-intellectual and atheoretical movement, emphasizing the will of the charismatic dictator as the sole source of inspiration of a people and a nation, as well as a vision of annihilation of all enemies of the Aryan Volk as the one and only goal of Nazi policy.

    USSR WAS Socialist too, hence the name Union Of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics. Yes they are Communist which is just a more extreme end of Socialism.

    China is still Communists, although it has taken on some aspects of Capitalism: Is China Still Communist?

    North Korea is Communist at an extreme: North Korea Under Communism 1948-2014 | Victims of Communism

    Communism is just a more extreme version of Socialism.
    The name does not define the entity, it is only a token used to represent it.

    As an example take Iceland and Greenland - Iceland was settled first when the Vikings were prepared to be more honest but when they came to settle Greenland they needed to persuade the colonists to make the move. Any rational comparison of the two would reverse the names.

    So look at the definition of Communism and ask yourself how that relates to Kim Jon Il's North Korea, Mao Tse Tung's China or Stalinist Russia - there is no point of contact at all. Now look at Kibutzism in Israel - it fits the definition rather well don't you think?

    As for Communism just being an extreme form of Socialism, you might as well say the Fascism is just an extreme form of Capitalism and therefore the USA is Fascist - just as much a nonsense as your claim.

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    Re: We Were Warned in 1963: Has Communist Ideology Overtaken America?

    Well I don't know. I'm a liberal and an educator and I am actively indoctrinating students in Socialist principles... like taking care of the poor, accepting all races and cultures, a level playing field for all classes, and giving civil rights to everyone. You know, that socialist stuff.

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    Re: We Were Warned in 1963: Has Communist Ideology Overtaken America?

    Your claim that in a Capitalist society everyone gets richer has a glaringly obvious flaw. Where do all these riches come from? There are 10 people. Each has £10. Under a Socialist Society they all work together so they each end up with about £10 each. Under a Capitalist Society, one person ends up with £91 & the remaining 9 have £1 each.

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    Re: We Were Warned in 1963: Has Communist Ideology Overtaken America?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint_ View Post
    Well I don't know. I'm a liberal and an educator and I am actively indoctrinating students in Socialist principles... like taking care of the poor, accepting all races and cultures, a level playing field for all classes, and giving civil rights to everyone. You know, that socialist stuff.
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