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    Re: We Were Warned in 1963: Has Communist Ideology Overtaken America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bryn Mawr View Post
    Just to point out a slight flaw in your argument, Nazi Germany was Fascist and the USSR, China and North Korea claim to be Communist but are actually Totalitarian Dictatorships - none of them are, were, or claim(ed) to be Socialist.

    The UK under a Labour government is Socialist, none of your examples are anything like.
    Nazi Germany was Socialist nonetheless. It was National Socialism:

    https://www.britannica.com/event/National-Socialism

    National Socialism, German Nationalsozialismus, also called Nazism or Naziism, totalitarian movement led by Adolf Hitler as head of the Nazi Party in Germany. In its intense nationalism, mass appeal, and dictatorial rule, National Socialism shared many elements with Italian fascism. However, Nazism was far more extreme both in its ideas and in its practice. In almost every respect it was an anti-intellectual and atheoretical movement, emphasizing the will of the charismatic dictator as the sole source of inspiration of a people and a nation, as well as a vision of annihilation of all enemies of the Aryan Volk as the one and only goal of Nazi policy.

    USSR WAS Socialist too, hence the name Union Of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics. Yes they are Communist which is just a more extreme end of Socialism.

    China is still Communists, although it has taken on some aspects of Capitalism: http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/2208...ill-communist/

    North Korea is Communist at an extreme: http://victimsofcommunism.org/north-...ism-1948-2014/

    Communism is just a more extreme version of Socialism.

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    Re: We Were Warned in 1963: Has Communist Ideology Overtaken America?

    Quote Originally Posted by xfrodobagginsx View Post
    Nazi Germany was Socialist nonetheless. It was National Socialism:

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    National Socialism, German Nationalsozialismus, also called Nazism or Naziism, totalitarian movement led by Adolf Hitler as head of the Nazi Party in Germany. In its intense nationalism, mass appeal, and dictatorial rule, National Socialism shared many elements with Italian fascism. However, Nazism was far more extreme both in its ideas and in its practice. In almost every respect it was an anti-intellectual and atheoretical movement, emphasizing the will of the charismatic dictator as the sole source of inspiration of a people and a nation, as well as a vision of annihilation of all enemies of the Aryan Volk as the one and only goal of Nazi policy.

    USSR WAS Socialist too, hence the name Union Of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics. Yes they are Communist which is just a more extreme end of Socialism.

    China is still Communists, although it has taken on some aspects of Capitalism: Is China Still Communist?

    North Korea is Communist at an extreme: North Korea Under Communism 1948-2014 | Victims of Communism

    Communism is just a more extreme version of Socialism.


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    Re: We Were Warned in 1963: Has Communist Ideology Overtaken America?

    Quote Originally Posted by xfrodobagginsx View Post
    Nazi Germany was Socialist nonetheless. It was National Socialism:

    https://www.britannica.com/event/National-Socialism

    National Socialism, German Nationalsozialismus, also called Nazism or Naziism, totalitarian movement led by Adolf Hitler as head of the Nazi Party in Germany. In its intense nationalism, mass appeal, and dictatorial rule, National Socialism shared many elements with Italian fascism. However, Nazism was far more extreme both in its ideas and in its practice. In almost every respect it was an anti-intellectual and atheoretical movement, emphasizing the will of the charismatic dictator as the sole source of inspiration of a people and a nation, as well as a vision of annihilation of all enemies of the Aryan Volk as the one and only goal of Nazi policy.

    USSR WAS Socialist too, hence the name Union Of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics. Yes they are Communist which is just a more extreme end of Socialism.

    China is still Communists, although it has taken on some aspects of Capitalism: Is China Still Communist?

    North Korea is Communist at an extreme: North Korea Under Communism 1948-2014 | Victims of Communism

    Communism is just a more extreme version of Socialism.
    The name does not define the entity, it is only a token used to represent it.

    As an example take Iceland and Greenland - Iceland was settled first when the Vikings were prepared to be more honest but when they came to settle Greenland they needed to persuade the colonists to make the move. Any rational comparison of the two would reverse the names.

    So look at the definition of Communism and ask yourself how that relates to Kim Jon Il's North Korea, Mao Tse Tung's China or Stalinist Russia - there is no point of contact at all. Now look at Kibutzism in Israel - it fits the definition rather well don't you think?

    As for Communism just being an extreme form of Socialism, you might as well say the Fascism is just an extreme form of Capitalism and therefore the USA is Fascist - just as much a nonsense as your claim.

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    Re: We Were Warned in 1963: Has Communist Ideology Overtaken America?

    Well I don't know. I'm a liberal and an educator and I am actively indoctrinating students in Socialist principles... like taking care of the poor, accepting all races and cultures, a level playing field for all classes, and giving civil rights to everyone. You know, that socialist stuff.

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    Your claim that in a Capitalist society everyone gets richer has a glaringly obvious flaw. Where do all these riches come from? There are 10 people. Each has £10. Under a Socialist Society they all work together so they each end up with about £10 each. Under a Capitalist Society, one person ends up with £91 & the remaining 9 have £1 each.

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    Re: We Were Warned in 1963: Has Communist Ideology Overtaken America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Saint_ View Post
    Well I don't know. I'm a liberal and an educator and I am actively indoctrinating students in Socialist principles... like taking care of the poor, accepting all races and cultures, a level playing field for all classes, and giving civil rights to everyone. You know, that socialist stuff.
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    Re: We Were Warned in 1963: Has Communist Ideology Overtaken America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Saint_ View Post
    Well I don't know. I'm a liberal and an educator and I am actively indoctrinating students in Socialist principles... like taking care of the poor, accepting all races and cultures, a level playing field for all classes, and giving civil rights to everyone. You know, that socialist stuff.
    Taking care of the poor by keeping them down and dependent on the Government? That's not taking care of the poor. That's keeping them down. Helping them better themselves by educating them and helping them get a good job is helping them. Christians accept all races and cultures so I am not sure what you are implying. It seems that liberals and communists don't accept the Christian culture and they want to drive the white people down who just want to be equal with everyone else. So, they don't want to accept ALL races and cultures. Level playing field by keeping everyone equally poor via Socialism? How about making everyone unequally wealthy instead of equally poor. The harder you work, the more money you should get. Capitalism built all of the economic giants of the world. Socialism fails in every country it's ever been tried. It's oppressive and evil. As far as civil rights goes, what rights doesn't a minority have that anyone else has? So yes you are spreading lies there. Socialist stuff like Stalin and hitler who murdered millions of people? Socialist like the North Korean leader? China? Yeah Great stuff...NOT... It leads to evil and oppression.

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    Re: We Were Warned in 1963: Has Communist Ideology Overtaken America?

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    Taking care of the poor by keeping them down and dependent on the Government? That's not taking care of the poor. That's keeping them down. Helping them better themselves by educating them and helping them get a good job is helping them.
    Exactly what I do. Math is the great equalizer.

    Christians accept all races and cultures so I am not sure what you are implying.
    No, Christians only say they accept all cultures and races. In reality, they are trying to build a wall to separate them from everyone else. (Not white or Republican, that is...) Heck, even the biggest Christian church in America wouldn't let refugees from a hurricane come into their church until they got shamed for it.

    It seems that liberals and communists don't accept the Christian culture and they want to drive the white people down who just want to be equal with everyone else.
    This "Christian culture" you talk about, is that where 1% of the rich white families in America control 95% of the wealth? How are they equal with anyone? Not very Christian to be a multi-billionaire while people starve now, is it?

    How about making everyone unequally wealthy instead of equally poor.
    Distribution of wealth, great idea! I knew you were a closet Socialist!

    The harder you work, the more money you should get.
    Yes, too bad that's not how capitalism works.

    Capitalism built all of the economic giants of the world.
    Economic giants like Trump? They're called "oligarchs" and they're universally evil. You're not for evil are you?

    Socialism fails in every country it's ever been tried. It's oppressive and evil.
    Socialism is government control of society like the U.S. Post Office, your local Fire Department, your local Police Department, and of course the IRS. Are you saying that America is a failure?

    As far as civil rights goes, what rights doesn't a minority have that anyone else has?
    HAHAHAHA...sorry I had to laugh out loud there. You should talk to one of the Dreamers about minority rights.

    Socialist stuff like Stalin and hitler who murdered millions of people? Socialist like the North Korean leader? China? Yeah Great stuff...NOT... It leads to evil and oppression.
    Umm, you went to school, right? You just named two Fascists, a totalitarian dictator and a Communist nation...and called them all Socialist. Do you even know what Socialism is?

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    Re: We Were Warned in 1963: Has Communist Ideology Overtaken America?

    Quote Originally Posted by Saint_ View Post
    Exactly what I do. Math is the great equalizer.

    Interesting. I thought liberals like you didn't believe in absolutes. So does 2+2 REALLY equal 4 or does it equal whatever I want it to equal? Just curious.

    No, Christians only say they accept all cultures and races. In reality, they are trying to build a wall to separate them from everyone else. (Not white or Republican, that is...) Heck, even the biggest Christian church in America wouldn't let refugees from a hurricane come into their church until they got shamed for it.

    Interesting you should say that because liberals want to separate all of the Christian White Males away from everyone else because they HATE them for being Christian, they HATE them for being white and they want to put males down. First of all, he did allow refugees into his church. Secondly, I am not a supporter of "Him"



    This "Christian culture" you talk about, is that where 1% of the rich white families in America control 95% of the wealth? How are they equal with anyone? Not very Christian to be a multi-billionaire while people starve now, is it?

    First off I would like to say that I am proud to be white and I think it's racist of liberals to always attack white people for being white. Whether or not it's true that 1% of the people control 95% of the wealth is irrelevant. The fact is that EVERYONE prospers under Capitalism. Everyone Suffers under Socialism. Get a clue. Capitalism is better. It's not very Christian to be greedy and jealous of people who have more than you do. Let people do with their money what they want. Jesus wanted people to give from their heart, not because the Government forces them to. Under your system, EVERYONE suffers and is equally poor. Yeah that's real great. Why don't you move to a communist Country if it's better?



    Distribution of wealth, great idea! I knew you were a closet Socialist!

    No way am I a closet Socialist. Let everyone earn their own way by working hard, but give them a chance instead of stealing what hard working people work for like Socialists do and giving it away to those who are lazy.

    Yes, too bad that's not how capitalism works.

    Capitalism is better than Socialism and Communism. Eat it.



    Economic giants like Trump? They're called "oligarchs" and they're universally evil. You're not for evil are you?

    I wasn't aware that Trump was a nation. I am talking about all of the richest nations in the world are built because of Capitalism, NOT Socialism. The evil ones are the greedy, jealous, angry people who are can't handle it when someone else works hard and does better than them. You want what doesn't belong to you and you can't have it and it's driving you crazy. That's evil. Stop trying to steal from people.


    Socialism is government control of society like the U.S. Post Office, your local Fire Department, your local Police Department, and of course the IRS. Are you saying that America is a failure?

    What I am saying is that limited Government is much better than what you want. No one is against the things listed above and you know it. But you have to use dishonesty to make your argument because reality doesn't make sense.



    HAHAHAHA...sorry I had to laugh out loud there. You should talk to one of the Dreamers about minority rights.

    Instead of blaming white people, Christians and males for everything, maybe if people like you would treat all men equally, then racism would die, but people like you like to fuel it and divide people into groups so you can control. Should white people have the same rights as everyone else?


    Umm, you went to school, right? You just named two Fascists, a totalitarian dictator and a Communist nation...and called them all Socialist. Do you even know what Socialism is?

    They were both Socialists as well. Didn't YOU go to school? Oh I know, it was a liberal know nothing, racist school right? Yeah I went to one of those too. LoL
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