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    Re: Russian politician: US spies slept while Russia elected Trump

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    Hillary Clinton Gave 20 Percent of United States' Uranium to Russia in Exchange for Clinton Foundation Donations?


    The Uranium One deal was not Clinton’s to veto or approve

    Among the ways these accusations stray from the facts is in attributing a power of veto or approval to Secretary Clinton that she simply did not have. Clinton was one of nine cabinet members and department heads that sit on the CFIUS, and the secretary of the treasury is its chairperson. CFIUS members are collectively charged with evaluating the transaction for potential national security issues, then turning their findings over to the president. By law, the committee can’t veto a transaction; only the president can. According to The New York Times, Clinton may not have even directly participated in the Uranium One decision. Then-Assistant Secretary of State Jose Fernandez, whose job it was to represent the State Dept. on CFIUS, said Clinton herself “never intervened” in committee matters.

    Despite transfer of ownership, the uranium remained in the U.S.

    A key fact ignored in criticisms of Clinton’s supposed involvement in the deal is that the uranium was not — nor could it be — exported, and remained under the control of U.S.-based subsidiaries of Uranium One, according to a statement by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission:

    NRC’s review of the transfer of control request determined that the U.S. subsidiaries will
    remain the licensees, will remain qualified to conduct the uranium recovery operations, and will continue to have the equipment, facilities, and procedures necessary to protect public health and safety and to minimize danger to life or property. The review also determined that the licensees will maintain adequate financial surety for eventual decommissioning of the sites. Neither Uranium One nor ARMZ holds an NRC export license, so no uranium produced at either facility may be exported.

    The timing of most of the donations does not match

    Of the $145 million allegedly contributed to the Clinton Foundation by Uranium One investors, the lion’s share — $131.3 million — came from a single donor, Frank Giustra, the company’s founder. But Giustra sold off his entire stake in the company in 2007, three years before the Russia deal and at least 18 months before Clinton became secretary of state.

    Of the remaining individuals connected with Uranium One who donated to the Clinton Foundation, only one was found to have contributed during the same time frame that the deal was taking place, according to The New York Times — Ian Telfer, the company’s chairman:

    His donations through the Fernwood Foundation included $1 million reported in 2009, the year his company appealed to the American Embassy to help it keep its mines in Kazakhstan; $250,000 in 2010, the year the Russians sought majority control; as well as $600,000 in 2011 and $500,000 in 2012. Mr. Telfer said that his donations had nothing to do with his business dealings, and that he had never discussed Uranium One with Mr. or Mrs. Clinton. He said he had given the money because he wanted to support Mr. Giustra’s charitable endeavors with Mr. Clinton. “Frank and I have been friends and business partners for almost 20 years,” he said.

    The timing of Telfer’s donations might be questionable if there was reason to believe that Hillary Clinton was instrumental in the approval of the deal with Russia, but all the evidence points to the contrary — that Clinton did not play a pivotal role, and, in fact, may not have played any role at all.

    https://www.snopes.com/hillary-clint...m-russia-deal/
    IT WAS up to her and OBAMA and the bipassed congressional approval. That's criminal. Plus, she recieved a handsome $150 MiLLION donation to the Clinton Foundation, plus, Bill got 2x his speaking fee for his speech in Moscow.

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    Re: Russian politician: US spies slept while Russia elected Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by xfrodobagginsx View Post
    IT WAS up to her and OBAMA and the bipassed congressional approval. That's criminal. Plus, she recieved a handsome $150 MiLLION donation to the Clinton Foundation, plus, Bill got 2x his speaking fee for his speech in Moscow.
    If that's criminal, Hillary would have been prosecuted already. It's just your personal hatred.

    Russia Wanted Trump As President And It Got Him. Now What Does America Do?

    ,HuffPost• November 22, 2017

    On Jan. 6, 2017, the U.S. intelligence community released a declassified version of its analysis finding that Russian President Vladimir Putin had not only interfered in the 2016 election, but had actively tried to help Trump. Among the tools Russia used was the theft of emails from the campaign of Trump’s opponent, Hillary Clinton, and their release through Russia-friendly WikiLeaks.

    Trump campaign foreign policy aide George Papadopoulos detailed in filings associated with his guilty plea agreement how Russians in April 2016 were offering the campaign emails damaging to Clinton. Emails between the president’s son, Donald Trump Jr., and a former business partner show that the younger Trump was eager to see the supposedly incriminating information in advance of a Trump Tower meeting. Trump Jr. later traded messages with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange about his father’s exploitation of emails stolen from Clinton campaign chair John Podesta. On Oct. 12, 2016, after Assange suggested that the GOP nominee help publicize the latest batch of stolen emails, Trump himself sent a tweet praising WikiLeaks just 15 minutes later.

    On May 9, 2017, after three months of complaining about the FBI’s Russia probe, Trump fired the agency’s director, James Comey. The reason initially stated was that Comey had mishandled an investigation into Clinton’s use of a private email server during her time as secretary of state. But the very next day, Trump reportedly told Russia’s foreign minister and its U.S. ambassador during an Oval Office visit that he’d fired Comey to block the probe. Trump again cited the Russia investigation as a reason for firing Comey in an interview with NBC News on May 11. That firing led quickly to Mueller’s appointment to take over the investigation.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-wa...100030401.html

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    Re: Russian politician: US spies slept while Russia elected Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by katsung47 View Post
    If that's criminal, Hillary would have been prosecuted already. It's just your personal hatred.

    Russia Wanted Trump As President And It Got Him. Now What Does America Do?

    ,HuffPost• November 22, 2017

    On Jan. 6, 2017, the U.S. intelligence community released a declassified version of its analysis finding that Russian President Vladimir Putin had not only interfered in the 2016 election, but had actively tried to help Trump. Among the tools Russia used was the theft of emails from the campaign of Trump’s opponent, Hillary Clinton, and their release through Russia-friendly WikiLeaks.

    Trump campaign foreign policy aide George Papadopoulos detailed in filings associated with his guilty plea agreement how Russians in April 2016 were offering the campaign emails damaging to Clinton. Emails between the president’s son, Donald Trump Jr., and a former business partner show that the younger Trump was eager to see the supposedly incriminating information in advance of a Trump Tower meeting. Trump Jr. later traded messages with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange about his father’s exploitation of emails stolen from Clinton campaign chair John Podesta. On Oct. 12, 2016, after Assange suggested that the GOP nominee help publicize the latest batch of stolen emails, Trump himself sent a tweet praising WikiLeaks just 15 minutes later.

    On May 9, 2017, after three months of complaining about the FBI’s Russia probe, Trump fired the agency’s director, James Comey. The reason initially stated was that Comey had mishandled an investigation into Clinton’s use of a private email server during her time as secretary of state. But the very next day, Trump reportedly told Russia’s foreign minister and its U.S. ambassador during an Oval Office visit that he’d fired Comey to block the probe. Trump again cited the Russia investigation as a reason for firing Comey in an interview with NBC News on May 11. That firing led quickly to Mueller’s appointment to take over the investigation.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-wa...100030401.html
    No, should wouldn't have. There is mass corruption in the FBI and the Government and they are being exposed now and I suspect people are going to be losing their jobs and or being prosecuted. Clinton and the Democrats paid $10 Million to the RUSSIANS for dirt on Trump. That's a fact. THEY are the ones who colluded.

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    Re: Russian politician: US spies slept while Russia elected Trump

    Trump and Pence were warned in January that CIA had proof Putin directed election hacks: report

    Travis Gettys 14 DEC 2017

    But the Washington Post reported Thursday that Director of National Intelligence James R. Clapper Jr., CIA Director John Brennan and FBI Director James B. Comey met with Trump on Jan. 6 to report the CIA “had captured Putin’s specific instructions on the operation.”

    The officials had already briefed President Barack Obama and members of Congress about the intercepts, and they expected the president-elect to throw them out of Trump Tower.


    https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/tru...-hacks-report/

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    If there is no left wing bias, why isn't the FBI investigating Hillary, Obama and the DNC?

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    Re: Russian politician: US spies slept while Russia elected Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by xfrodobagginsx View Post
    If there is no left wing bias, why isn't the FBI investigating Hillary, Obama and the DNC?
    They did. They didn't find anything that was actually criminal.
    It may not be so much that I've conceded your point as that you just can't hear me rolling my eyes.

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    Re: Russian politician: US spies slept while Russia elected Trump

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    They did. They didn't find anything that was actually criminal.
    Yes they did and they admitted it under oath, but then Comey dismissed it because Comey is helping Hillary and the Democrats.

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    Re: Russian politician: US spies slept while Russia elected Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by xfrodobagginsx View Post
    Yes they did and they admitted it under oath, but then Comey dismissed it because Comey is helping Hillary and the Democrats.
    Could you give us a link to that?

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    Re: Russian politician: US spies slept while Russia elected Trump

    Quote Originally Posted by Bryn Mawr View Post
    Could you give us a link to that?
    Sure here you go:

    Hillary Clinton and the real Russian collusion | Fox News

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    Re: Russian politician: US spies slept while Russia elected Trump

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