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    Re: Thoughts and prayers for strangers yet again

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    You're suggesting civilian handguns should be banned while civilian rifles remain legal? There's arguments for that. Nobody hunts in the woods with a handgun. I'd support your proposal.
    It isn't clear to me what you are referencing.

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    It isn't clear to me what you are referencing.
    You had just written "Fact is in the scheme of things rifles are not the first choice for murder" from which I inferred you were pointing at handguns as the main weapon involved in shooting deaths in America. Were you not making that implication?
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    You had just written "Fact is in the scheme of things rifles are not the first choice for murder" from which I inferred you were pointing at handguns as the main weapon involved in shooting deaths in America. Were you not making that implication?
    Not an implication, it is a fact handguns are the firearm of choice for murder.

    You're suggesting civilian handguns should be banned while civilian rifles remain legal? There's arguments for that. Nobody hunts in the woods with a handgun. I'd support your proposal.
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    NO NO NO

    I have no idea where yu got that from.
    You would agree that despite the legality of hunting with a handgun, the overwhelming proportion of gun hunting in America is with a rifle and not a handgun?
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    Re: Thoughts and prayers for strangers yet again

    Quote Originally Posted by tude dog View Post
    Fact is in the scheme of things rifles are not the first choice for murder.

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    Rifles 332 298 285 258 252
    Shotguns 362 310 308 264 269
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    Personal weapons (hands, fists, feet, etc.)1 751 707 687 682 624

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    I don't see the sense of passing laws just to ease somebody's phobia.
    I understand most murders are done with hand guns, my point was if the military style rifle were outlawed the deranged that wanted to commit mass murder (not a single murder) would be slowed down. Also most handguns and hunting rifles can't be modified to shoot fully automatic which would slow a mass murderer down on the amount of lead he can put into the air in a short amount of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spot View Post
    You would agree that despite the legality of hunting with a handgun, the overwhelming proportion of gun hunting in America is with a rifle and not a handgun?
    Where are you going with this?
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    Where are you going with this?
    That law-abiding adult American civilians can defend themselves with rifles from their domestic compatriot killers, they have no need for handguns.
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    Re: Thoughts and prayers for strangers yet again

    A petition has gone round signed by behavioural psychologist and scientists to media to stop the saturation of information of the criminal in effect humanising what they have done.
    Its giving the person the exactly what they want and encourages others.

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    I think i understand what they mean now. My news crossed to america for an update. The reporter outlined the mans planning and mentioned "music festival" countless times in the very short cross.
    Maybe this is what a copycat needs?
    At the beginning all we knew is that he was a rich, middle aged white male who owned mulriple firearms.
    Now we know he had an unsuspecting girlfriend, how he planned it, how he carried it out ,how many people he affected and what his target was. The media has identified his family and friends and his girlfriends family.

    I think i understand what these professionals are on about

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    Re: Thoughts and prayers for strangers yet again

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    That law-abiding adult American civilians can defend themselves with rifles from their domestic compatriot killers, they have no need for handguns.
    Uh, you are not thinking that through.

    I live in a small house. I don't want my defense gun to be sticking out 2 feet in front of me, subject to be shoved or diverted. I am not going to argue scenarios, but our go-to gun in our home is an S&W Model 10 .38 revolver, that is unless I get to my 3".45acp 1911 first.

    Outside is totally different. Long guns may be the way to go, but best to be inside and wait for the cops.

    It is not up to me to tell others how best to defend themselves.
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