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    Re: Hooray! You can now die with dignity in victoria

    Quote Originally Posted by gmc View Post
    The religious have been justifying who has the right to exist, who is worthy, who is legitimate or illegitimate who is human or who is not as human as they are since religion was invented. Racism is a religious construct to justify subjugating and enslaving entire people because the colour of their skin marked them out as inferior it's an execrise in religious hypocrisy that they prefer to pretend never and doesn't still happen.

    George bernard shaw hardly qualifies as a liberal his views on eugenics alone exclude him from that label as would his support of stalin, mussolini and hitler. I take it you are an american as most americans seem to have little idea what qualifies as liberal ideals or thinking.
    He is a liberal hero. He was a Marxist. He was a far left nut.

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    Democratic Socialism is a fine idea. However, putting it into practice in the modern world, As Venezuela has learned, is far more difficult than it ought to be.
    You do realise that most of the european countries have social democratic parties running them and have had since the end of ww2? - apart from spain that has the fascists in ascendency again.

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    Sadly the right is making a comeback in the UK and europe

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    He is a liberal hero. He was a Marxist. He was a far left nut.
    You rather prove my point, you can't be a liberal and a marxist the two are mutually exclusive. You now have a right wing government in the US backed up by the christian right hell bent it seems on destroying liberal democracy. Enjoy

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    Re: Hooray! You can now die with dignity in victoria

    Quote Originally Posted by xfrodobagginsx View Post
    He is a liberal hero. He was a Marxist. He was a far left nut.
    What about communist ? Why leave that one out ?
    I thought I knew more than this until I opened my mouth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruv View Post
    What about communist ? Why leave that one out ?
    He was a Communist. So anyway, he is just one example of how far left ideology ends up.

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    Americans often aren't aware that liberalism over here isn't what they think of as liberalism over there.

    Liberalism over here is about the maximum freedom of the individual compatible with a free and fair society. It looks back to Wilberforce and the Abolition of Slavery for its inspiration. It believes in private property, equality before the law and that people should be able to go as far as their talent will take them regardless of race, colour or creed.

    It is therefore completely incompatible with Marxism or any form or communism which does not believe in private property, puts the convenience of the government above the law and people's talents entirely at the disposal of the State.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clodhopper View Post
    Americans often aren't aware that liberalism over here isn't what they think of as liberalism over there.

    Liberalism over here is about the maximum freedom of the individual compatible with a free and fair society. It looks back to Wilberforce and the Abolition of Slavery for its inspiration. It believes in private property, equality before the law and that people should be able to go as far as their talent will take them regardless of race, colour or creed.

    It is therefore completely incompatible with Marxism or any form or communism which does not believe in private property, puts the convenience of the government above the law and people's talents entirely at the disposal of the State.
    Maximum freedom for Liberals, as long as your not a Christian, Conservative, Pro Traditional Values, Pro Christian Values...basically as long as you agree with the Liberals. How are those who speak out against radical islam treated?

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    Is English your first language Bilbo ?
    I thought I knew more than this until I opened my mouth

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    Re: Hooray! You can now die with dignity in victoria

    Quote Originally Posted by xfrodobagginsx View Post
    Maximum freedom for Liberals, as long as your not a Christian, Conservative, Pro Traditional Values, Pro Christian Values...basically as long as you agree with the Liberals. How are those who speak out against radical islam treated?
    The religious bleat about how their religious freedom is infringed upon when they are prevented from discriminating against people whose lifestyles they disapprove of and they are stopped from imposing their ridiculous belief system on others and can't grasp that no one is stopping them going to church or living their lives as they choose stop feeling sorry fornyourselves and be grateful you ove in a liberal democracy. In a religious society there is no freedom and no such concept as human rights,

    How are those who speak out against radical islam treated?
    In saudi arabia they get imprisoned without trial.

    https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/09/15/...erics-arrested

    In america you can call donald trump a wanker and it's not a criminal offence even if donald thinks no one should take the piss out of the president. That liberal democracy enjoy the last few days of it.

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    The upper house in victoria are into their 33rd hour of debating.
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