Counter Crusade

[Mike CT]

COUNTER CRUSADE

The attacks on our freedoms and free speech (excluding profanity and insults) by the popes and the ghosts of the Pharisees is going on today in our Constitutional Democracy.
It is about time we fought back to keep them in their place which is the religious institutions and their homes.
They are acting illegally when they enter into politics and the public school systems.
This action violates our Constitutional mandate of 'Separation of Church and State'.

These religious fanatics are also illegal crusaders promoting 'cruel and unusual punishment' with their symbolic crucifixes and crosses. These are NOT true symbols of the Gospel of Christ. Their symbols are the instruments that Pontius Pilate used to force his opponents to comply to his predatory and sadistic practice by torturing them to death.
Our Constitution forbids this kind of punishment for any reason.
In the case of Christ, he was punished for what? For free speech which was directed toward the Pharasees? Christ did not volenteer to be crucified. Therefore, the only true symbol of his church should be an icon of him preaching his Gospel.
So, I suggest that the crucifixes and crosses be 'scrapped' and replaced with an icon of his image at the front of the congregation within the church.

So I again suggest we start promoting the Christian Gospel of reform against an established religion that is NOT promoting the true nature of the message of what Christ was promoting like helping the poor and sick (I support jobs for all and volentary euthanasis) and private prayer rather than public prayer. Also, supporting our Constitutional law rather then the 'dogma' of a predatory empire like the Romans at the time of the Christian era.

The first three commandments in the bible are also unconstitutional because they deny freedom of religion which is a personal right for all US citizens but practiced in the proper institutions and the private homes of the followers.

A US citizen

Mike CT

[SOJOURNER]

[quote=Mike CT]
These religious fanatics are also illegal crusaders promoting 'cruel and unusual punishment' with their symbolic crucifixes and crosses. These are NOT true symbols of the Gospel of Christ.

The symbol of the cross does not stand for death and killing, it stands for "LIFE". The plain cross is symbolic of the Risen Lord.

In the case of Christ, he was punished for what? For free speech which was directed toward the Pharasees?

I think the problem was that he threaten the established government.


Christ did not volenteer to be crucified.

Correct. He obeyed His Fathers will.

Therefore, the only true symbol of his church should be an icon of him preaching his Gospel.
So, I suggest that the crucifixes and crosses be 'scrapped' and replaced with an icon of his image at the front of the congregation within the church.

There is no therefore, the case you present is flawed.

and private prayer rather than public prayer.

We are called to live in community, to love God and to love one another

Also, supporting our Constitutional law rather then the 'dogma' of a predatory empire like the Romans at the time of the Christian era.

Do you feel all our laws are good?

The first three commandments in the bible are also unconstitutional because they deny freedom of religion which is a personal right for all US citizens but practiced in the proper institutions and the private homes of the followers.

Render unto Ceasar that which is Ceasar's and unto God that which is God's. Many people believe we have a higher power in the Bible, it came first and all else should follow.

To Mike CT, A US citizen

From an Alien in a Strange Land

[911]

The first three commandments in the bible are also unconstitutional because they deny freedom of religion which is a personal right for all US citizens but practiced in the proper institutions and the private homes of the followers.



You so funny!

How can anything in the Bible be unconstittutional if you have to separate the church and the state?

You so funny!

(Oh, and if I'm not mistaken, it's freedom FROM religion) Yet and still, you so funny!

[Ted]

SOJOURNER

Excellent post. Well put. Yes the empty cross is definitely a Christian symbol. It is a simply of victory.

Shalom
Ted

Mike CTCOUNTER CRUSADE:

The attacks on our freedoms and free speech (excluding profanity and insults) by the popes and the ghosts of the Pharisees is going on today in our Constitutional Democracy.
It is about time we fought back to keep them in their place which is the religious institutions and their homes.
They are acting illegally when they enter into politics and the public school systems.
This action violates our Constitutional mandate of 'Separation of Church and State'.

They are also citizens and have the same right you do to speak out and change their country, it is of course your right to do the opposite, enjoy yourself. Aint freedom wonderful!

These religious fanatics are also illegal crusaders promoting 'cruel and unusual punishment' with their symbolic crucifixes and crosses. These are NOT true symbols of the Gospel of Christ. Their symbols are the instruments that Pontius Pilate used to force his opponents to comply to his predatory and sadistic practice by torturing them to death.

How does a symbol torture you? The Power it has is only the power you give it. I ignore swastikas on skinheads and such...

Our Constitution forbids this kind of punishment for any reason.

Please tell me where?

In the case of Christ, he was punished for what? For free speech which was directed toward the Pharasees? Christ did not volenteer to be crucified. Therefore, the only true symbol of his church should be an icon of him preaching his Gospel.
So, I suggest that the crucifixes and crosses be 'scrapped' and replaced with an icon of his image at the front of the congregation within the church.

Its important to note that Chirst was "punished" illegally according to the laws of his day, his crime was plastered above his head "King of the Jews".. and even Pontious himself would not condemn him he said "I find no fault in him" but it was as the people "jews" wished it. They even asked Pilate to write thet he "said" he was king of the Jews not that he "was" king of the Jews.

So I again suggest we start promoting the Christian Gospel of reform against an established religion that is NOT promoting the true nature of the message of what Christ was promoting like helping the poor and sick (I support jobs for all and volentary euthanasis) and private prayer rather than public prayer. Also, supporting our Constitutional law rather then the 'dogma' of a predatory empire like the Romans at the time of the Christian era.

So youre saying that the "christians of today" have become like the established roman government? I dont believe they have that much power even in the slightest.

The first three commandments in the bible are also unconstitutional because they deny freedom of religion which is a personal right for all US citizens but practiced in the proper institutions and the private homes of the followers.

"Be fruitful and multiply" I believe is the first commandment in the bible...

A US citizen

Mike CT[/quote]


Far Rider

A US Citizen.

[Mike CT]

To all

The bible was written by people. The Roman dogma was written by the popes (people). The current Christian preachers today are just people portraying themselves as the higher law.
The Natural GOD did not write the bible, write the Roman dogma or motivates the current selfstyled higher law promoters.

Our Constitution was written over the sactrifice of thousands of revolutionaries that fought for a right to govern their own lives.
So on behalf of these men, I consider our Constitution to be the highest law in the land. There is NO higher law.

Mike CT

Originally Posted by Mike CT

To all

The bible was written by people. The Roman dogma was written by the popes (people). The current Christian preachers today are just people portraying themselves as the higher law.
The Natural GOD did not write the bible, write the Roman dogma or motivates the current selfstyled higher law promoters.

Our Constitution was written over the sactrifice of thousands of revolutionaries that fought for a right to govern their own lives.
So on behalf of these men, I consider our Constitution to be the highest law in the land. There is NO higher law.

Mike CT

Are you over 13 yet?

[Adam Zapple]

I consider our Constitution to be the highest law in the land. There is NO higher law.

Then I respectfully suggest you gain a better understanding of it.

[Mike CT]

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Mike, had you been alive and in Germany during WWII and the years leading up to it, you would have made a great Nazi.

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Wow! I cannot believe you said that.
I am not a bigot in any form. To me there is just one color, nationality, religion or any other such differences. I lump them all into one identity and that is AMERICAN. We are all patriots of our country or should be. That does not mean we should endorse anything we disagree with. Our first patriotic duty is to honor our Constitution.
Incidentally, I did NOT vote for Bush and his corporate and religious government.
This is the republican mentallity.

I posted my concept of GOD and it is the only CREATOR of life as I know it.
Nature created no LAWS so the peoples book is out of step with the Natural Creatot GOD which means, there is no higher law than our Constitution.

Regarding the interpretation of the crucifixion:
I see things realistically and objectively. I see a man promoting his free opinions that was directed toward the Pharisees that influenced Pontius Pilate to crucify Christ for what he said.
Seems like our Constitution has Christs main objections protected by the 'free speech' to be allowed and the crucifixion to be disallowed. It also promotes the equality of the citizenship as well. This runs counter to the Pharisee attitude of ignoring the needs of the lower masses. So to me, the current crop of Pharisees (popes and the Christian coalition) is out of step with the Christian Gospel.

US Citizen

Mike CT

[911]

[QUOTE/]I posted my concept of GOD and it is the only CREATOR of life as I know it.
Nature created no LAWS so the peoples book is out of step with the Natural Creatot GOD which means, there is no higher law than our Constitution.

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I'm not sure I understand what you just said. . . . but if you mean what I think you mean . . . you are saying there are no laws of Nature?

Man had to create laws because we refuse to follow the laws of nature.