ForumGarden  

Home Who's Online Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Go Back   ForumGarden > Religions & Beliefs > General Religious Discussions
Forums Casino Geo Photo Blogging Site Rules Arcade


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-12-2007, 05:12 PM   #11 (permalink)
Ted
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Gabriola Island BC
Posts: 3,714
Re: Can You Patent God?

abbey

All are welcome. Jesus never turned anyone away.

Shalom
Ted

Local Time: 04:10 PM
Local Date: 11-21-2009
Ted is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2007, 05:15 PM   #12 (permalink)
Ted
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Gabriola Island BC
Posts: 3,714
Re: Can You Patent God?

Bryn Mawr

I'm not sure one could patent such a concept. If one so believes then God is beyond human comprehension in any linguistic sense. It is impossible for human language to begin to describe the indescribable.

Shalom
Ted

Local Time: 04:10 PM
Local Date: 11-21-2009
Ted is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2007, 05:24 PM   #13 (permalink)
BORN TO BE A RED!
Supporting Member
 
abbey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: UP NORTH
country flag
Posts: 14,974
Re: Can You Patent God?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryn Mawr View Post
Be my guest - all views welcome.

I was just wondering which church - there are so many!
The first church that springs to mind is the Catholic church.

Local Time: 12:10 AM
Local Date: 11-22-2009
abbey is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2007, 05:25 PM   #14 (permalink)
BORN TO BE A RED!
Supporting Member
 
abbey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: UP NORTH
country flag
Posts: 14,974
Re: Can You Patent God?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ted View Post
abbey

All are welcome. Jesus never turned anyone away.

Shalom
Ted
Bless you Ted and HAPPY XMAS my friend

Local Time: 12:10 AM
Local Date: 11-22-2009
abbey is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2007, 05:34 PM   #15 (permalink)
Lon
Senior Member
Supporting Member
 
Lon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: California
country flag
Posts: 7,007
Re: Can You Patent God?



PATENT PENDING

Local Time: 01:10 PM
Local Date: 11-22-2009
Lon is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2007, 06:00 PM   #16 (permalink)
Senior Member
Supporting Member
 
Bryn Mawr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: London
country flag
Posts: 8,067
Re: Can You Patent God?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ted View Post
Bryn Mawr

I'm not sure one could patent such a concept. If one so believes then God is beyond human comprehension in any linguistic sense. It is impossible for human language to begin to describe the indescribable.

Shalom
Ted
I've realised from the response that patent was a poor metaphor for the idea I wanted to explore.

I believe that if you worship a God who is 5'6" with red hair and webbed feet then you cannot comment on someone who has a God who is 7'3", bald and has six fingers. They are so obviously different concepts that bear no relationship to each other that there is no overlap in the concepts.

My personal belief is that the different Gods that humans worship are different aspects of the one true God and that the differences between them are a result of man's lack of understanding and comprehension of something so far beyond us that we cannot hold the totality in our mind.

We cannot understand what drives God, the motives and intentions behind the actions. It follows, therefore, that we cannot tightly describe or constrain God to any single model and deny the sanctity of any different model. To condemn another for having a different definition of God is to demean and belittle a God who is beyond our definition.

It saddens me that I cannot put my thoughts in order well enough to put the question in a meaningful way but I do believe that no man has the right to tie God into a rigid image or to condemn any person for having a different view of God.

Local Time: 12:10 AM
Local Date: 11-22-2009
Bryn Mawr is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2007, 07:16 PM   #17 (permalink)
Ted
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Gabriola Island BC
Posts: 3,714
Re: Can You Patent God?

Bryn Mawr

I concur completely. I am also trying to think of how one might rephrase that question. Very interesting.

Shalom
Ted

Local Time: 04:10 PM
Local Date: 11-21-2009
Ted is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2007, 05:47 AM   #18 (permalink)
gmc
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Scotland
country flag
Posts: 6,155
Re: Can You Patent God?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ted View Post
Bryn Mawr

I concur completely. I am also trying to think of how one might rephrase that question. Very interesting.

Shalom
Ted
Why bother? If god made all things and always was and ever shall be then no one can claim to have invented him, made the story up or whatever way you want to put it.

Conceivably you might claim copyright on how you worship and that's why you have religious wars, monotheists killing each other over who has the right way to do it. God either is or is not. I would put it to you that religious groups arguing about who is right about the way to worship rather than being unified by a shared belief are the bane of the planet. It's like you all have a copy of the same book and arguing whether the cover should be blue or green. (for those of you up on your sectarian colour schemes)

The very idea that you ask the question can you patent god suggests that secretly you believe it is all a figment of your imagination. If you can accept that somebody did invent/dream him up then all you claim to believe is false.

Does a dyslexic atheist not believe in dog?

Local Time: 12:10 AM
Local Date: 11-22-2009
gmc is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2007, 10:27 AM   #19 (permalink)
Senior Member
Supporting Member
 
Bryn Mawr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: London
country flag
Posts: 8,067
Re: Can You Patent God?

Quote:
Originally Posted by gmc View Post
Why bother? If god made all things and always was and ever shall be then no one can claim to have invented him, made the story up or whatever way you want to put it.

Conceivably you might claim copyright on how you worship and that's why you have religious wars, monotheists killing each other over who has the right way to do it. God either is or is not. I would put it to you that religious groups arguing about who is right about the way to worship rather than being unified by a shared belief are the bane of the planet. It's like you all have a copy of the same book and arguing whether the cover should be blue or green. (for those of you up on your sectarian colour schemes)

The very idea that you ask the question can you patent god suggests that secretly you believe it is all a figment of your imagination. If you can accept that somebody did invent/dream him up then all you claim to believe is false.

Does a dyslexic atheist not believe in dog?

No, it's a belief that those who tie God down to a highly specific definition cannot object about someone else who definition of God lies outside the first - they are obviously different concepts that just happen to have the same generic name.


I totally agree that religious groups arguing about who is right about the way to worship rather than being unified by a shared belief are the bane of the planet. I would go farther and say that they are an insult to God - when Jesus instructed us to turn the other cheek how can we possibly justify killing our fellow believers over a difference in mens interpretation of the Scriptures.

Local Time: 12:10 AM
Local Date: 11-22-2009
Bryn Mawr is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2007, 01:44 PM   #20 (permalink)
gmc
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Scotland
country flag
Posts: 6,155
Re: Can You Patent God?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryn Mawr View Post
No, it's a belief that those who tie God down to a highly specific definition cannot object about someone else who definition of God lies outside the first - they are obviously different concepts that just happen to have the same generic name.


I totally agree that religious groups arguing about who is right about the way to worship rather than being unified by a shared belief are the bane of the planet. I would go farther and say that they are an insult to God - when Jesus instructed us to turn the other cheek how can we possibly justify killing our fellow believers over a difference in mens interpretation of the Scriptures.
I dare say you will find a priest somewhere that could tell you. Nowadays if you suggest turning the other cheek some religious groups might accuse you of encouraging homosexual practices

Local Time: 12:10 AM
Local Date: 11-22-2009
gmc is offline  
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:10 PM.


Copyright ©2009, Digitalfog, LLC All Rights Reserved.

Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.2.0