What's in a Day?

Originally Posted by Ted

jester

An hydraulic engineer is not qualified to interpret geology. That is a whole other profession requiring a much different line of study. He is not a geologist.

A quote from Louis Ginsberg's "Legends of the Bible" pg xxxviii "All of this multitude of tales is preserved in the legends of the Bible, and offers a striking example of how folklore, fable and myths were reminted in the workshop of schoolmen. [These being the compilers and writers of the Bible]

As far as some creationists being holders of degrees goes it is still necessary for their work to be subjected to peer review. So far not one of them has passed in the general community of scientists.

Shalom
Ted

I hydraulic engineer knows the affects of water when he observes it, and tests it, and duplicates its findings, and then publishes it.

But I understand the per rejection, you represent that here, and reject every interpetation that does ot fit your loose interpreation of undogma, since we are not scholars.

[Omni_Skittles]

DAY

(1) It sometimes means the time from daylight till dark. This popular meaning is easily discovered by the context, e.g. Gen 1:5; 8:22, etc. The marked periods of this daytime were morning, noon and night, as with us. See Ps 55:17. The early hours were sometimes called "the cool of the day" (Gen 3:8). After the exile the day. or daytime was divided into twelve hours and the night into twelve (see Matt 20:1-12; John 11:9; Acts 23:23); 6 a.m. would correspond to the first hour, 9 a.m. to the third; 12 noon to the sixth, etc. The hours were longer during the longer days and shorter during the shorter days, since they always counted 12 hours between sunrise and sunset.
(from International Standard Bible Encyclopaedia, Electronic Database Copyright © 1996, 2003 by Biblesoft, Inc. All rights reserved.)

DAY

(7) On the meaning of "day" in the story of Creation we note (a) the word "day" is used of the whole period of creation (Gen 2:4); (b) these days are days of God, with whom one day is as a thousand years; the whole age or period of salvation is called "the day of salvation"; see above. So we believe that in harmony with Bible usage we may understand the creative days as creative periods. See also ASTRONOMY ; CREATION ; EVOLUTION .
(from International Standard Bible Encyclopaedia, Electronic Database Copyright © 1996, 2003 by Biblesoft, Inc. All rights reserved.)

Originally Posted by Omni_Skittles

DAY

(1) It sometimes means the time from daylight till dark. This popular meaning is easily discovered by the context, e.g. Gen 1:5; 8:22, etc. The marked periods of this daytime were morning, noon and night, as with us. See Ps 55:17. The early hours were sometimes called "the cool of the day" (Gen 3:8). After the exile the day. or daytime was divided into twelve hours and the night into twelve (see Matt 20:1-12; John 11:9; Acts 23:23); 6 a.m. would correspond to the first hour, 9 a.m. to the third; 12 noon to the sixth, etc. The hours were longer during the longer days and shorter during the shorter days, since they always counted 12 hours between sunrise and sunset.
(from International Standard Bible Encyclopaedia, Electronic Database Copyright © 1996, 2003 by Biblesoft, Inc. All rights reserved.)

DAY

(7) On the meaning of "day" in the story of Creation we note (a) the word "day" is used of the whole period of creation (Gen 2:4); (b) these days are days of God, with whom one day is as a thousand years; the whole age or period of salvation is called "the day of salvation"; see above. So we believe that in harmony with Bible usage we may understand the creative days as creative periods. See also ASTRONOMY ; CREATION ; EVOLUTION .
(from International Standard Bible Encyclopaedia, Electronic Database Copyright © 1996, 2003 by Biblesoft, Inc. All rights reserved.)

So can you go find that phrase in the bible 'one day with God is as a thousand years' and look each word up independently then interpret it?

Lets see what you come up with.

[Ted]

jester

Bara is the word used. There have been many advancements since Strong did his work. I will go with my training and the several reference books I have in my library.

You may claim it is accurate but it is still and example of trying to make the Bible say what is not there.

Regardless of all of that the story is a myth. It was written to show the sovereignty of God and that it does. That is the truth presented in that part. God is sovereign over all of creation and human kind.

If we go to pg161 of "Understanding the Old Testament" by B. Anderson we read that the stories of creation are found in ancient folklore."

Shalom
Ted

[Ted]

jester

You are wrong on that. Such an engineer knows the effects of water on rocks. That is his job. However, he is not trained in geological interpretation. Such interpretation as he might give has no credibility if he is not trained in geology. He can say what he likes but it would be the same as me trying to tell a nuclear scientist how to run his business. That is not my field.

It has absolutely nothing to do with what I want. It has everything to do with the facts and the evidence. What I want is immaterial.

Shalom
Ted

[Omni_Skittles]

You also have to know that Moses wrote this from "oral" history. He wrote it so that the Israelites would have there history... I don't know really where i am going with that... haha

[Ted]

jester

Omni is doing exactly what you refuse to do. He is going to the experts to find some answers. He is not relying on his own understanding. Looks like a good source to me.

Shalom
Ted

[Omni_Skittles]

Originally Posted by Jester

So can you go find that phrase in the bible 'one day with God is as a thousand years' and look each word up independently then interpret it?

Lets see what you come up with.

ARE YOU CRAZY? lol i will try... haha

[Ted]

Omni

That will be like trying to reinvent the wheel. You have already done the correct thing in checking a reputable reference. It is as reputable as anything else.

Shalom
Ted

Originally Posted by Ted

jester

Bara is the word used. There have been many advancements since Strong did his work. I will go with my training and the several reference books I have in my library.

You may claim it is accurate but it is still and example of trying to make the Bible say what is not there.

Regardless of all of that the story is a myth. It was written to show the sovereignty of God and that it does. That is the truth presented in that part. God is sovereign over all of creation and human kind.

If we go to pg161 of "Understanding the Old Testament" by B. Anderson we read that the stories of creation are found in ancient folklore."

Shalom
Ted

Still got that ace eh Ted, the old perfect hand? When you cant prove your point, change the argument.

Why did you even bother to argue over words then Ted?