The Lake of Fire

[Ted]

Daniyal

I have checked many times. The fact is there is much dispute among scholars on the original language of "Revelation". Some say it is Greek and some say it is Aramaic. Presently I fall in with the group that goes with Greek. Could I be wrong? Yes. Does it matter? Not really.

I'm not sure what there is to discuss about Revelation. It is a very deep criticism of the Roman Empire, nothing more and nothing less. The symbolism was long ago lost in antiquity. Then one also has to contend with the editorializing, redactions, additions and deletions and of course copying errors.

Shalom
Ted

[Daniyal]

Originally Posted by spot

Where would you suggest is a believable place to check it? Christian authorities tend to have claimed Greek as the original language for the Book of Revelation. http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01594b.htm would be an example - the Catholic Encyclopaedia.

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It a know Face that Yashu'a never spoke greek nor latin nor english . And this is why .


Where Did The Word Jesus Come From ?

Ans ; Scholars attempt to justify the use of the name '' Jesus '' In the Book Of The New Testament , They Claimed That The NewTestament Was Inspired To Be Written In Greek Originally . So Therefore , The Name '' Jesus '' Is Acceptable For Common Use Instead Of Using '' Jashu'a '' , According To The Harper's Bible Dictionary , Page 329 , You See A Picture Of What The Name Of Jesus Would Have LQQked Like Back In The 1st Century , In The Original

Aramic ( Hebrew ) Language , Which He Spoke , They Also That Because There Is No '' Sh '' Sound In The Greek Language The Name '' Jesus '' Is Acceptable Lesous < Greek > Was An Anttempted Transliteration From The Original Language Into Greek .

Ques ; If There Was No '' J '' Sound .. How Was '' Jesus '' Pronounced ''
Ans ; That Means That The Word '' Jesus '' Is No Older That The16th Or 17th Century !!!! < Don't Believe Me , Check It Out For Yourself >


Ques ; If There Was No '' J '' In The English Language Before 1565 A.D. How Did The Name '' Jesus '' Come About ?

Ans ; With A Little Research , You Will Find That The Names '' Zeus '' <Geek > And '' Jesus '' < Greek >Are Linked By The Same Root According To The Larousee Encyclopedia Of Mythology The Greek '' God '' Dionysus Is Etymologically '' Zeus '' God '' Or Gad '' Was The Seventh Son Of Jacob '' God '' Also Stands For Gomer Which Is Wisdom , Oz - Which Is Beauty And Dabar - Which Is Strength Dionysis Is '' God '' Of Wine ; Also Known As


Bacchus , HowEver , The Final Syllable Of Dionysus Or Zeues Is Identical To The Ending Of '' Jesus '' This Break Down Proves That The Reason For Selecting The Suffix , - Sus , For The Word '' Jesus '' Was Because Of Dionysus Or Zeus Who Was Known As The Greek Savior , When The Bible Was Translated Into The English Language . Zeus Is Jesus < Just Take A LQQk For YourSelf !!! >


When You Combine Then Modern Form Of The Aramic ( Hebrew ) '' Y ''( ' ) Which Is Pronounced '' Yod '' To Get The Latin '' J '' ( l ) And Then Add It To The Word Zeus - You Get - Ja - Zeus , Which Is Short For Yashua ( Jesus )
And From Zeus You Got The Word Souse And Then . It Became A Dity From Which Comes Deus In Portuguese , Dieu In French , Dio , In Italian , Dios , In Spanish , Dia In Scotch And Irish , And Duw In Welsh .


EveryDay New Names Are Being Added . When You Research Further On The Meaning Of The Suffix - sus , You Find That , According To The Webster's Third New International Dictionary , That - sus Is From The French , Latin Meaning '' Swine , Hog , Sow . The Scientific Classification For The Pig Is Sus Scrofa . The Word '' Souse '' ( Sus ) Is The Name Of A Certain Type Or Combination Of Pork That Is Pickled . Souse Is Also A Nickname ForThe South , As In '' Souse Carolina. '' Some May Call This Is


Blasphemy , But Truth Is Truth , And Fact AreFacts . And Right Now , The Facts Are Saying That .

Ques ; Why Do They Change '' The Messiah's '' Name From The Aramic
( Hebrew ) YASHU'A ' To Christ Jesus .
Ans ; The Fact Is Some Christian Have A Sickness Of Changeing People's NameOr Translating Them To Their Language . There Is No '' J '' In The Hebrew Or Aramic Alphabet The Name '' Jesus '' Is The Greek Form Of The Aramic ( Hebrew ) Name Joshua Or Jesua , Which Is A Contraction Of Johoshua . Joshua In Aramic ( Hebrew ) Is Yehowshua Or Jehoshua From The Root Word Yasha Meaning '' To Be Safe , To Set Free , Help Deliver , Salavation , Savior '' I Feel Sorry For All Those People Calling Jesus '' Christ '' BecauseIf You Call On '' The Messiah '' Jesus As Christ '' He Will Not Know


Who You Are Calling . Even If You Call Him '' Jesus '' He Will Not Know Who You Are Calling . That Was Not His Name In Greek Nor Latin ; Two Languages That He Did Not Speak . '' Christ '' Has A Different Meaning In The Greek Language Than What '' Messiah '' Has In Aramic ( Hebrew ) . So Why And How Can You Do This ? Let's Take A House In The Bible And Call It A Car . Now Try To Start The House With A Key . What Is Wrong With The Children Of The Eloheem ????




Where Did The Word '' Christ '' Come From ?


Ans; '' Christ '' Is The English Corruption Of The Greek Word '' Kristos '' Which Comes From The The Latin Word '' Cristus '' The Root Of '' Kristos '' Is The Greek Word '' Krio '' Which Means '' To Rub Over , To Anoint '' . Kristos Is The Greek Interpretation Of The Hebrew Word

Mashiah Which Takes Its Origin From The Ashuric / Syriac ( Arabic ) Word Masiyh Meaning '' Anointed '' . The Ashuric / Syriac ( Arabic ) Word Masiyh Derived From The Root Word Masaha Which Means ; '' He Wiped Clean , He Healed And Annointed .

From The '' Christus '' Christ '' Comes Into The Old English As '' Crist '' . To The Middle English Root '' Christ '' , And Then To The English As '' Christ '' Originally The Word '' Kristos '' Comes From Sanskirt , The Ancient Script Of The 200 Fallen Angelic Beings Who

Were Cast Down To The Planet Earth The Head Of The Fallen Angelic Beings Was Named '' Tarnush '' And He Was Called '' Krisna '' , The Demon Deity Of The Hindus , Who Were Descendants Of The 200 Fallen Eloheem ( Disagreeable Beings ) Of The Land Of Nod .

This Is Where The Word Kristos '' Is Derived . According To '' The American Heritage Dictionary '' Their Definition For '' Christ '' Is Jesus Christ Regarded By Christians As Being The Son Of God And The Messiah Foretold By The Prophets Of The Old Testement .

Thus Rendering One Who Believes In '' Christ '' Or '' Jesus '' A Christian . They Also Define The Era Of Time This Religion Began As Being Roughly At His Birth 1 . A.D. -- Which Is An Incorrect Date . First Of All Yashu'a / Jesus Did Not Speak GREEK So He Never Knew The Word '' Christ '' , Which Is A Greek Word , Or The Word '' Christian '' , Or For That Matter , The Name '' Jesus '' Which Is Also A Greek Word .


Does The Word '' Christ '' Have Any Other Meaning ?

There Are Many Definitions That The Christian World Has Submitted For The Word '' Christ ''
( 1 ) . Christ ----- Middle English Crist ; Latin Chrisus , From Greek Khristos , '' The Anoinred ( One ) '' From Khrein '' To Anoint ''

The Anointed ; The Messiah , As Foretold By The Prophets Of The Old Testement . ( 2 ) . Christian Science Science ; The Divine Manifestation Of God . Which Comes To The Flesh To Destroy Incarnate Error ''

Take From ; American Heritage Dictionary Of The English Language .

( 2 ) . Christ ---- A Translation Of The Hebrew Mashiah , As Is Expressly States In John 1;41 . Meaning Anointed ; '' We Have Found The Mrssiah , Which Is Being Interpreted The Christ '' . The Hebrew Word Designates The King Who Was To Come , The Promised Messiah .

Taken From ; Catholic Encyclopedia .

( 3 ) . Christ ----- Greek Christos '' Anointed '' Equivalent To The Hebrew Meshiach , '' Messish '' . Anointed '' The Official Title Of Of Nazareth Designating Him As '' The Messiah '' Or '' Promised One Of The Old Testement '' . In Messianic Prophecy The Term Came To Be Applied Specifically To The Messiah Who , As Prophet , Priest , And King Was The One Ordained To Be The Redeemer Of The World .

Taken From ; Seventh - Day Adventist Bible Dictionary , Volume 8
( 4 ) . Christ ----- The Jehovah Witnesses Express That Their Allegiance Is To Jesus Christ , The Head Of The Christian Congregation , Who Stated ; '' ... For One Is Your Master , Even Christ '' ( Matthew 23 ; 19 ) . Taken From ; ' Christ Actively Leads His Congregation '' The Watchtower , August 1 , 1987 . A.D. The Following Terms Are Derived From The Word '' Christ '' ;

The Following Terms Are Derived From The Word Christ '' Christ ''
Christ - Like --
Christendom --- Christianity ; The Part Of The World In Which Christianity Prevails .
Christian --- Of Or Relating To Christianity
Christianity --- The Religion Derived From Jesus Christ Based On The Bible As Professed By Easter , Roman Catholic And Protestant Bodies .
Christmas --- A Christian Feast On December 25 , Or Among Eastern Orthodox On January 7 , That Commemorates The Birth Of Christ And Is Usually Observed As A Holiday , ( Both Are Incorrect Dates )

[Daniyal]

Originally Posted by Ted

Daniyal

I have checked many times. The fact is there is much dispute among scholars on the original language of "Revelation". Some say it is Greek and some say it is Aramaic. Presently I fall in with the group that goes with Greek. Could I be wrong? Yes. Does it matter? Not really.

I'm not sure what there is to discuss about Revelation. It is a very deep criticism of the Roman Empire, nothing more and nothing less. The symbolism was long ago lost in antiquity. Then one also has to contend with the editorializing, redactions, additions and deletions and of course copying errors.

Shalom
Ted

Read The Above Post Ok .


If your so sure about what you believe is dealing with the facts why not discuss revelation . But if you wish not to it cool

[Ted]

Daniyal

You are playing word games again. We all know that Jesus was not born on Dec. 25 and I'm not sure that anyone cares. If we are to have any discussion we need some substance not a play on words.

Shalom
Ted

[Ted]

Daniyal

When it comes to a discussion of Revelation we are not dealing with facts we are dealing with metaphor, allegory etc.

The second point I would like to make is that I am not interested in a slugging match and that is what I see you doing elsewhere. 'Put downs' have no place in a decent discussion. I am sure that you have some valuable knowledge to impart and some good ideas to discuss, but the impression I get is that you seem to think you have all the answers and after the years I've spent in formal education that is a self deluding position.

Shalom
Ted

[Daniyal]

Originally Posted by Ted

Daniyal

You are playing word games again. We all know that Jesus was not born on Dec. 25 and I'm not sure that anyone cares. If we are to have any discussion we need some substance not a play on words.

Shalom
Ted

Come On I Though You Were Better Then That < Remember Something Ok >
It's Not The Things One Knows That Get Him Or Her In Trouble , Its The Things One Knows That Just Isn't So That Get Them In Trouble ...


Substance -- What You Really Mean Is Tell You What You Want To Hear , You Deal In Belief I Deal In Facts . Like I Said If You Wish If Not No Big Thengs . But If We Do This I'm Not Reading No Website Links Ok .

[Daniyal]

Originally Posted by Ted

Daniyal

When it comes to a discussion of Revelation we are not dealing with facts we are dealing with metaphor, allegory etc.

The second point I would like to make is that I am not interested in a slugging match and that is what I see you doing elsewhere. 'Put downs' have no place in a decent discussion. I am sure that you have some valuable knowledge to impart and some good ideas to discuss, but the impression I get is that you seem to think you have all the answers and after the years I've spent in formal education that is a self deluding position.

Shalom
Ted

lolololololololololol I Have Never Claim I Know Everything But What I Know I Know But Thanks Anyway . Overstand Something The Diffrent Between You And Christians , You Were Told What To Believe I Wasn't .

[Ted]

Daniyal

I am not surprised by your response. It simply demonstrates what I said.

As far as your guess as to what I am wanting to 'hear' you are so far from the truth. You have no idea.

Change your attitude and I might like to engage you in a discussion.

Have a nice day.

Shalom
Ted

[Daniyal]

Originally Posted by Ted

Daniyal

I am not surprised by your response. It simply demonstrates what I said.

As far as your guess as to what I am wanting to 'hear' you are so far from the truth. You have no idea.

Change your attitude and I might like to engage you in a discussion.

Have a nice day.

Shalom
Ted

Talk Is Cheat Land Cost Money Later

[Ted]

Whatever.

Shalom
Ted